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Air Crew Quarantine

Old 28th Jan 2021, 09:14
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Whilst aircrew are being blamed for the 1/3 UNTRACED cases, why don't they blame it that compulsory QR code upon entry to any restaurant or crowded malls is not enforced? How many people actually even use this app to record their footsteps? https://www.leavehomesafe.gov.hk/en/ WHY?
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Old 28th Jan 2021, 09:38
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maybe something to do with all the massive and legal gatherings you can have at home or in private places! I don't suggest the West has a good handle on this situation at all however in Europe and Australia one hasn't been allowed to go to someone's house or gather in groups in public since this all started, maybe these clowns should look at banning meetings in private and public between anyone outside of your immediate living circle!
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Old 28th Jan 2021, 15:13
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Not helped by this dipshittery.
https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/...sidents-do-not
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Old 28th Jan 2021, 23:17
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There is nothing wrong with waiting for a more proven vaccine. I know people who’ve had the Chinese vaccine in the sandpit and had side effects that were less than desirable. One case was back in the hospital with a drip. I’m sure if the company says we must have it then there will be no choice but I would hold off for the proven vaccines given the option.

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Old 28th Jan 2021, 23:29
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Have the HK government said they are only using the sinoVaccine?
By comparison, Australia hedged its bets and ordered supplies from 3 or 4 sources, the Pfizer, the AstraZeneca, the Novovax and i think also a Covax vaccine, but thatís not as well developed.
It seems odd that HK being as well developed and relatively affluent from a GDP perspective, would not have a number of suppliers.
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Old 28th Jan 2021, 23:43
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Hong Kong has struck deals to purchase 22.5 million doses of Covid-19 vaccines, with 7.5 million shots each coming from three suppliers: Sinovac Biotech; Fosun Pharma which offered the vaccine co-developed by Germany’s BioNTech and US-based Pfizer; and British-Swedish firm AstraZeneca.
The article Globocnik posted has the numbers purchased in it.
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Old 29th Jan 2021, 00:42
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Curious. Is there any benefit to the leadership for holding back vaccines? Asking for a friend
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Old 29th Jan 2021, 00:49
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Politics comes first in HK before the peoples health. The current leaders of HK sure are proud muppets, ready to jump whenever Beijing tells them too.
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Old 29th Jan 2021, 03:53
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Originally Posted by Rie View Post
There is nothing wrong with waiting for a more proven vaccine. I know people whoíve had the Chinese vaccine in the sandpit and had side effects that were less than desirable. One case was back in the hospital with a drip. Iím sure if the company says we must have it then there will be no choice but I would hold off for the proven vaccines given the option.
What are you actually talking about?? "..more proven" and "..I know people.." for heavens sake, if I give a vaccine to a million people and 1 person has an allergic reaction which is like 0.0001% are you then going to say "oh no this vaccine is bad and will kill you and will alter your dna etc etc.." clearly you've never taken a vaccine before because out of about 50 shots I've had in as many years somewhere along the line you feel a bit woozy or sick afterwards! Hell if I asked a hundred million people how they felt after drinking a Heineken I'm sure a few people didn't feel great afterwards or broke out in a rash or something silly!

There is nothing wrong with all these vaccines, they have been made by some of the smartest people on the planet! But please, the facebook social media people know better after hearing something from someone spewing some mumbo jumbo!

PS: I must remember to sit down with a Microsoft Flight sim expert and ask them about airline flying and what its like to do a Cat 3 into Denver. ... ffs
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Old 29th Jan 2021, 04:12
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Your magic chinese vaccine has NOT been approved by the FAA, nor EASA, which says something.

Once youíve had Sinopharm, you canít go back and get Pfizer or other western approved vaccines.

If thereís a chance that my flying licence might be jeopardised, Iíd rather wait for the approved vaccine, thank you very much.
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Old 29th Jan 2021, 05:06
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Didn't know the FAA / EASA was now medical experts in the field of vaccines.. what next, is Tesco in charge of servicing my car?
And what licence, you haven't flown in a year
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Old 29th Jan 2021, 05:28
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Not sure why you are being such a knob on a rumour network about what people say. Problems in the home? Scared you might get chopped so the anxiety is coming out?

The FAA/EASA/CAA/CAAD are all vastly superior to your keyboard knowledge in the medical field. They have their own medical teams who can determine the effect on a pilot that certain medications have and will not approve things they believe to had adverse effects. The Chinese vaccine has a 73 item long list of adverse effects, no other vaccine has one this long. It's no wonder many people are winding up with huge problems. Remember that these vaccines are approved for emergency use. They have not had the full testing regime put through. So Oli please just wait till the day you lose your licence for taking the wrong vaccine and have to get it back. Then you'll understand why you can't rush this for certain fields.
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Old 29th Jan 2021, 06:11
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clearly you haven't read the adverse side effects of ANY medication, the side effects of a sleeping pill is you guessed it "insomnia" the side effects of anti diarrhea pills is wait for it "rectal bleeding" "heart failure" So stop being a knob and use some DF, if you want to run around and be a keyboard warrior and think you know better than some of the smartest scientists on the planet then by all means go ahead!
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Old 29th Jan 2021, 07:49
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Did the Chinese vaccine only have 50 percent efficacy after trails in Brazil?
Iíll take my chances with another one.
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Old 29th Jan 2021, 08:27
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Should watch the movie Dark Waters, not a conspiracy theorist but it does make you wonder when this amount of money is involved.
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Old 31st Jan 2021, 15:04
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Words fail me to describe my contempt for the HK gov... First they announce publicly and obviously without any idea of the consequences a quarantine "plan", with total disregard for the included human sacrifices of air crew, the catastrophic impact for airlines. And then: nothing. No date, no statement, no explanation, just absolutely nothing at all. Unbelievable.
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Old 31st Jan 2021, 17:44
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You clearly don’t live in any part of Europe that I do my friend. Not being able to go to friend’s/relatives’ homes or meet in public? Must be the Europa moon of Jupiter you’re talking about.

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Old 31st Jan 2021, 19:46
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What is the latest regarding local based aircrew quarantine? As I understand it the 21 day quarantine only applies to aircrew who have visited Extremely High Risk areas like U.K., S.A. and Brazil, otherwise just a COVID test at the airport upon arrival and a 24 hour lockdown at the Sky City or company designated 24 lockdown hotel? https://www.coronavirus.gov.hk/eng/e...rsons-faq.html
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Old 1st Feb 2021, 00:31
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Wyoming, unfortunately no further info.

The proposal was for locally based aircrew to quarantine for 14 days in hotel upon arrival from anything other than a turnaround flight. Was expected to commence from around Feb 12, but the trail has gone cold. Presumably some heavy lobbying occurring behind the scenes to steer off this latest act of lunacy.

All the best.
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Old 1st Feb 2021, 12:39
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Lunacy describes this lot very, very well.

But that would be an insult to lunatics elsewhere. This is next level.
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