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Displaced Local Crew

Old 15th Nov 2020, 19:18
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Lets not start a pxxsing contest-they went to 26 destinations in the PRC alone not to mention Kathmandu and Busan at night (and circled where cx didn’t).
Google KA destinations......,,
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Old 15th Nov 2020, 22:45
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My apologies ladies and gents, that did not come across the way I intended. I am fully aware of where KA flew. My point was, all the local displaced pilots will be hired, cx needs them for the future. I donít think there is going to be a need to restrict the issue of work visas, maybe in the immediate short term, but that wonít last long. It sounds like many have managed to get into some of the mainland airlines that offer very lucrative contract.
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Old 15th Nov 2020, 23:10
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Surely 1981 you need the KA pilots to fly the 321neo that arrived in HKG from Hamburg yesterday. A night Calcutta in the monsoon would be beneath you so you canít do that. You are a bunk and sandwich expert after all.
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Old 15th Nov 2020, 23:29
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That would be the most sensible option for cx, the displaced crew from ka on the 320 are type rated and familiar with the routes, it would be stupid not to snap them up.
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Old 16th Nov 2020, 06:05
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Had a HKE Captain share details of their new COS21. I sounds like you won't get any locals willing to work there even if they are displaced.

Captains now to be paid less than a COS18 FO. The FO's now on a wage similar to an English teacher. Unpaid leave on top of that. Singles might be able to make it work. Anyone with a pet will be carving it up for dinner as they won't be able to afford it anymore. Kids in school? Send them up to China to join the labour force.

Truely is the race to the bottom.
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Old 17th Nov 2020, 04:08
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Youíre right, you can keep the job. Particularly the bond of US$35k for command upgrade etc.
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Old 17th Nov 2020, 04:32
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You're wrong, the only people who eventualy will want this job are the locals.
As an expat you would be very stupid to leave your country for a bad contract like this one.
Next time easyjet recruits all the Europeans will be out of HKG.
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Old 17th Nov 2020, 05:15
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Last time Easy, Ryan, Jet2, Vueling recruited there were people leaving already. Gets to a point where no/minimal education allowance means the children take priority and the families pack up and go home.
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Old 17th Nov 2020, 16:37
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Originally Posted by EddyTemple View Post
I find your assumptions on the id91 form comical. Just because you were issued a work visa under the 990B, doesn't automatically give you endless extensions because you filed the id91 request. The id 91 requires immigration approval if it didn't need approval then why create the form. Considering the current circumstances these extensions should be and will be denied to protect the local market.
Well Eddy, my friend, it has been confirmed today, that all you have been preaching is utter bollocks.
There is no threat what so ever from immigration regarding renewal of work permits for pilots on 3 year contracts.
The question is, do you really want the contract that would be offered to you, if you were successful in kicking out those pesky expats ?
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Old 17th Nov 2020, 16:45
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FCN 'Secondment to Air Hong Kong' - Positions available for the increased cargo demand, interesante!

Unfortunately, this means my application for DEFO with Air Hong Kong has been thrown into the bin I thought AHK would at least take a peek at some us redundant KA crew.

On a positive note, I hope it's a good opportunity for the ones that take it!
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Old 17th Nov 2020, 23:30
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Youíd be daft not to apply. It will be the only way to earn more than minimum money on CoS 18 next year. It will be interesting to see how many are on Team tomorrow.
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Old 18th Nov 2020, 00:08
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How will they choose who goes over? Seniority? Oh wait...
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Old 18th Nov 2020, 01:27
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Likely to be doing 45 hours they say. On the Airbus cos 18 scale thats min guarantee only.
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Old 18th Nov 2020, 01:42
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So you are going to get paid the same as somebody who is sitting at home, doing no flying at all?
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Old 18th Nov 2020, 04:50
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And stealing the job of 20 pilots AHK would have had to hire if CX was not doing secondment .
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Old 18th Nov 2020, 04:56
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my sentiments exactly.
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Old 18th Nov 2020, 05:32
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another way to look at it is your gonna get paid whilst a guy sitting at home unemployed not getting paid does nothing! Guys please wake up, the cuts to pilot numbers aren't complete! Management probably believe their own propaganda or want too, but look at the company and what's happening it is not sustainable we have too many pilots and not enough flying! Just prepare yourselves the best you can and look after your families, there is no seniority protection so please everyone prepare themselves! The best advice I have ever been given in aviation is always keep your bags packed and resume updated!
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Old 18th Nov 2020, 05:32
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Under COS18 I thought CX can basically send you anywhere within the group. So if they donít get any volunteers theyíd probably Ďsendí 20 over anyway.
Iím not condoning any of this by the way. Would much rather see 20 unemployed pilots getting a pay packet again.
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Old 18th Nov 2020, 09:27
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Why stop there? Just hire all the unemployed pilots till the cx group runs out out money!
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Old 22nd Nov 2020, 23:50
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Not only your friends, many others had their visa renewed too. I wonder if this thread matters anymore. Good try Eddy. Try harder next time.
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