Rostering
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From: the land of chocolate
Rostering
Not sure who here is on yammer, but it has been interesting following some of the back-and-forths lately between a certain someone from rostering and various pilots.
I wonder what some of your thoughts are concerning the tone used by rostering, who are in (near) total control of our lives and of those of our loved ones.
I wonder what some of your thoughts are concerning the tone used by rostering, who are in (near) total control of our lives and of those of our loved ones.
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From: Asia
Not sure who here is on yammer, but it has been interesting following some of the back-and-forths lately between a certain someone from rostering and various pilots.
I wonder what some of your thoughts are concerning the tone used by rostering, who are in (near) total control of our lives and of those of our loved ones.
I wonder what some of your thoughts are concerning the tone used by rostering, who are in (near) total control of our lives and of those of our loved ones.
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From: the land of chocolate
5 jokers attached to leave, a great thing to have, did that come from him or did that come from above?
I think it was the latter.
Why wasn't this thought of before? Why was it always 'cannot'?
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From: somewhere
The GMA's warning was specifically to "crew". The persons who roster us are not "crew", they were excluded from the polite "reminder" of serious consequences.
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From: hong kong
This guy is a very big problem with this company moving beyond. He is a hangover from the CH days and gets relegated way too much responsibility from the inept Swire princes, who will be moving on soon. So we are stuck with this fella,that is the main problem. They should of cleaned house ages ago. They will never have a relationship with their crew while taking advice from the aforementioned cretin.
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From: St Helena Island
So is the current MICM, DL.
It's about cost savings, and they will do whatever they can to save money for the airline as well as protect their interest - their bonus.
That's why we have continuous changes in our rosters to reduce EFP despite that is in contradiction to the policy stated in Ops A.
It's about cost savings, and they will do whatever they can to save money for the airline as well as protect their interest - their bonus.
That's why we have continuous changes in our rosters to reduce EFP despite that is in contradiction to the policy stated in Ops A.
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From: Canada
Ok, I am not normally one to come out on the side of the company, but give the guy a break. You would have to be a saint (or a truly gifted manager/bs'sr) not to get a little tired of the constant wining of the pilots.
If you got an email from a pilot complaining about not getting any requests, but he has 20 days off in the month, it would be a little hard to be sympathetic and not lash out a little bit.
We are slowly moving forward. Tell the guy he is doing a good job once in a while. It will likely go a long way.
If you got an email from a pilot complaining about not getting any requests, but he has 20 days off in the month, it would be a little hard to be sympathetic and not lash out a little bit.
We are slowly moving forward. Tell the guy he is doing a good job once in a while. It will likely go a long way.
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Bellcrank. Simple question? Setting aside your irrelevant point about getting "20 days off a month", one only needs to ask: did the pilot in question have a reasonable expectation, based on our system of requests, to be awarded the trip he was complaining he didn't receive? If so, and he didn't receive it, then he (and the rest of us) have a valid reason to complain. In case its never occurred to you, we have one of the most dysfunctional systems of request in the industry. My friend who flies for American gets 21 days off a month, AND every single request every month that he desires. We are lucky to get our first request, then the rest of the month is rubbish. And that is for the rest of your career. At the very least our first request should be sacrosanct. Don't fall into the "we should be grateful for the crumbs we get" mindset, ok? (and no, I am not going to tell him he "is doing a good job" when all evidence to date demonstrates that our system is broken).
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From: CLK
Simple visibility of the bid/request queue to make a reasonable assessment of your likelihood of success would be handy, however these dinosaurs aren’t even capable of that. CX seems to outsource everything from brand to maintenance, but not rostering, I wonder why?
