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This management truly are tone deaf. The very day after their resounding defeat, the inevitable article in the SCMP basically insisting that we "turned down an offer of improved conditions", and that we are also "the only group who has not contributed to cost savings". RH, you keep digging that hole just a little bit deeper. All the encouragement needed to accept that offer from my next employer. Moron.
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Yes indeed, just as you would expect from the company.
The real issue is that there is no press release from us explaining why we rejected this pathetic offer, and rebutting the CX spin. Why wasn’t such a release drafted and ready to go? Oh that’s right, our chairman and GC are in agreement with CX on this. So the AOA should just add +1 to whatever CX spout.
The real issue is that there is no press release from us explaining why we rejected this pathetic offer, and rebutting the CX spin. Why wasn’t such a release drafted and ready to go? Oh that’s right, our chairman and GC are in agreement with CX on this. So the AOA should just add +1 to whatever CX spout.
This management truly are tone deaf. The very day after their resounding defeat, the inevitable article in the SCMP basically insisting that we "turned down an offer of improved conditions", and that we are also "the only group who has not contributed to cost savings". RH, you keep digging that hole just a little bit deeper. All the encouragement needed to accept that offer from my next employer. Moron.
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It is almost unbelievable.
The Company put out a press release that states that the aircrew do not contribute!
There can be no agreement with the Management while they continue such a campaign against their own staff.
The Company put out a press release that states that the aircrew do not contribute!
There can be no agreement with the Management while they continue such a campaign against their own staff.
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What a load of deceitful, disingenuous drivel. How about the fact that the pilot group has been subsidizing CX with the following:
- No cost of living, inflation adjusted payrise for what, at least a decade?
- Medical care that is so pared down that it is scraping the bottom of the Hong Kong medical barrel.
- Their paltry and unsustainable Hong Kong Pilot's Allowance for locally employed pilots.
- The capricious and arbitrary non-payment of the annual 13th month bonus (while every other labor group received it).
- The unilateral changes to the rostering policies that are detrimental to the pilot group's quality of life and bottom line.
And yet, they can make these outrageous public declarations that are blatant lies and they go unanswered.
Why the hell doesn't the Union have an established public information program to educate the public. The only thing CX seems to be competent at is spin and optics. You guys should have been leading from the front on this from the outset. How about taking some of those war chest levies and using them to hire a public information officer?
- No cost of living, inflation adjusted payrise for what, at least a decade?
- Medical care that is so pared down that it is scraping the bottom of the Hong Kong medical barrel.
- Their paltry and unsustainable Hong Kong Pilot's Allowance for locally employed pilots.
- The capricious and arbitrary non-payment of the annual 13th month bonus (while every other labor group received it).
- The unilateral changes to the rostering policies that are detrimental to the pilot group's quality of life and bottom line.
And yet, they can make these outrageous public declarations that are blatant lies and they go unanswered.
Why the hell doesn't the Union have an established public information program to educate the public. The only thing CX seems to be competent at is spin and optics. You guys should have been leading from the front on this from the outset. How about taking some of those war chest levies and using them to hire a public information officer?
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Yes indeed, just as you would expect from the company.
The real issue is that there is no press release from us explaining why we rejected this pathetic offer, and rebutting the CX spin. Why wasn’t such a release drafted and ready to go? Oh that’s right, our chairman and GC are in agreement with CX on this. So the AOA should just add +1 to whatever CX spout.
The real issue is that there is no press release from us explaining why we rejected this pathetic offer, and rebutting the CX spin. Why wasn’t such a release drafted and ready to go? Oh that’s right, our chairman and GC are in agreement with CX on this. So the AOA should just add +1 to whatever CX spout.
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Why not have a pre-prepared press statement for either outcome?
It's not rocket science. It doesn't need to be inflammatory, simply a factual letter stating the facts from the AOA perspective. It isn't surprising that the SCMP writes in this way though - the work ethic in Hong Kong is set up to protect the employer.
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The HKAOA are notoriously poor at PR.
Why not have a pre-prepared press statement for either outcome?
It's not rocket science. It doesn't need to be inflammatory, simply a factual letter stating the facts from the AOA perspective. It isn't surprising that the SCMP writes in this way though - the work ethic in Hong Kong is set up to protect the employer.
Why not have a pre-prepared press statement for either outcome?
It's not rocket science. It doesn't need to be inflammatory, simply a factual letter stating the facts from the AOA perspective. It isn't surprising that the SCMP writes in this way though - the work ethic in Hong Kong is set up to protect the employer.
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Instead of posting on pprune why not take out half a page at the scmp and tell the public how you as a pilot group contribute and everyone else at cx got a payrise recently
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No we don't strike. But you can expect a sharp rise in sickness rate similar to what happened 3 years ago that made a certain Ex DFO's armpits sweat in the middle of winter. That's right, it was during the post CNY rush.
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So all the nice platitudes from the GMA evaporate within hours of the NO vote. Typical but totally predictable. Now maybe the 435 who voted yes will see the error of their ways and next time a 100% outcome will be assured. Bottom line " you can't believe a word this company says".
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They all want to be from the Michael O’leary school of management. Why be angry, its just a game. No one likes Swire as employers , only the gullable or naive.
Be glad you not in KA, seems an initial offer of ZERO percent may well be put to the membership, with a 3 % raise to HDP. Thats around a HK $500month increase for most captains. Pathetic.
Be glad you not in KA, seems an initial offer of ZERO percent may well be put to the membership, with a 3 % raise to HDP. Thats around a HK $500month increase for most captains. Pathetic.
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They all want to be from the Michael O’leary school of management. Why be angry, its just a game. No one likes Swire as employers , only the gullable or naive.
Be glad you not in KA, seems an initial offer of ZERO percent may well be put to the membership, with a 3 % raise to HDP. Thats around a HK $500month increase for most captains. Pathetic.
Be glad you not in KA, seems an initial offer of ZERO percent may well be put to the membership, with a 3 % raise to HDP. Thats around a HK $500month increase for most captains. Pathetic.
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hmmm,...considering the recent vote by the CX pilots, it would be the perfect time for the DPA pilots to pile on and insist on proper contract terms. I doubt CX management could handle a civil war on two fronts. Why on earth any GC would recommend "0" percent is beyond me (oh...wait...not much different than our feckless GC). Seriously everyone, it's time to stop accepting abuse, disrespect and constant career erosion from this toxic management. Proper contract increases in pay and benefits, or you can find your operation grinding to a virtual halt with a TB and CC. Not that difficult.
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On a personal note, the fact that the CEO willingly allowed an article in the SCMP the very day after the vote, blaming the pilots (and distorting the truth) means that regardless of any settlement between company and union, I am a CC'er for life. That is what 20+ years of abuse brings you. On a personal note to RH, perhaps you can pick up last weeks edition of Flight International. At the back there is an obituary to Herb Kelleher, the much missed CEO of Southwest Airlines. The qualities and philosophy of that man are the complete antithesis of what our CEO(s) represent, and for that reason they are all small, forgettable human beings in comparison to a man who truly cared and looked after his employees. RIP Herb.
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This is the same individual who in September stated the DPA were briefed about COS18 prior to its rollout. Just another troll, trying to inflame....
Keep up with the false accusations and it might backfire.
Keep up with the false accusations and it might backfire.