Refuelling with Pax on Board/Boarding
I wonder if the CAD/HKIA are aware of this practice and of the apparent conflict with the HKIA AOM?
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I sure do.
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For goodness sake, CX has been operating that way for at least the last 25 years and the procedure is defined in the company’s Operations Manual, which is approved by the HKCAD. HKCAD FOIs regularly fly with the company and it is regularly ramp inspected. Your seemingly innocent question now sounds like a witch hunt.
By 25 years.
Fascinating!
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Whenever the crew or passengers are onboard during refuelling operation, a headset must be connected to the nose wheel interphone connection and a qualified headset man of HAECO/CASL should be stand-by in the vicinity of nose gear. The procedure of refuelling with Passengers Onboard, Embarking or Disembarking should be strictly followed up.
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Procedure AOM ???
Whenever the crew or passengers are onboard during refuelling operation, a headset must be connected to the nose wheel interphone connection and a qualified headset man of HAECO/CASL should be stand-by in the vicinity of nose gear. The procedure of refuelling with Passengers Onboard, Embarking or Disembarking should be strictly followed up.
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Whenever the crew or passengers are onboard during refuelling operation, a headset must be connected to the nose wheel interphone connection and a qualified headset man of HAECO/CASL should be stand-by in the vicinity of nose gear. The procedure of refuelling with Passengers Onboard, Embarking or Disembarking should be strictly followed up.
So its not 'esoteric bull****' for many.
Besides that, given the two recent major cargo fires during loading in HKIA you'd think it would be a good idea to have a manned headset during re-fuelling with Pax on board, especially if loading was going on too (as it most commonly would be).
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Wireless headsets - great idea, if they work. I’ve found they work about half the time when the ground crew are positioned at the wing. You’ve probably heard that ‘headset connected’ annunciation being repeated over and over. That’s the headset losing wireless connection and re-making it. Theoretically the headset has the range to work from back there at the wing, but if you ask the groundcrew guys about it they’ll tell you it only works if the headset battery is fully charged, and after they’ve been using it on the ramp for a few hours the battery runs down, the signal weakens, and those comms drops occur.
If they don’t have enough backup sets to keep one on charge while the other one is in use the system is unreliable.
So it comes down to money again.
If they don’t have enough backup sets to keep one on charge while the other one is in use the system is unreliable.
So it comes down to money again.
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When fully charged.
Or maybe some sets are weaker than others.
If you’re an engineer, ask your crews about their experience with multiple ‘headset connected’ messages.
Like i said, it’s a good solution if it works properly.
Or maybe some sets are weaker than others.
If you’re an engineer, ask your crews about their experience with multiple ‘headset connected’ messages.
Like i said, it’s a good solution if it works properly.
