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Old 30th Dec 2018, 03:07
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Oh, and by the way...

Has anyone seen this disingenuous, manipulative drivel? CX is saying they gave you guys CONCESSIONS in exchange for "industrial peace". I wish I could say you can't make this $hit up, but apparently you can...

https://amp.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/...re-mooted-deal

It's beyond outrageous. I hope you don't let this go unanswered....
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Old 30th Dec 2018, 03:41
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The only pilot union ever to actively want to officially sign its own death wish... my flabber is well and truly gasted.
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Old 30th Dec 2018, 08:43
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Maybe it doesnít need to be answered..........probably the article was written by our GC
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Old 30th Dec 2018, 09:45
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I see so many threads bashing Emirates and Cathay on here from employees.

If it sucks that much, why are you still working there? Am I one of the few remaining pilots here who loves their job?
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Old 30th Dec 2018, 09:55
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Originally Posted by A320ECAM View Post
I see so many threads bashing Emirates and Cathay on here from employees.

If it sucks that much, why are you still working there? Am I one of the few remaining pilots here who loves their job?
Because, speaking of many at CX, they bitch and moan, but know full well there are very few employers out there who will pay them as much as they do at CX.

I fly with so many here who are unhappy, but are married to the 'money' they get. Sad but true.
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Old 30th Dec 2018, 11:12
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ECAM, Iím glad that you are still happy , the problem arises in that the rest of us see our contracts that we signed up for being degraded and arbitrarily changed on a whim . We are angry and rightly so .
if this deal requires a no strike action itís obviously got the company worried . There is a very simple fix to the problem ,
1) Abide by the contracts that you signed with your employees
2) Treat your employees with respect
3) Create an employment environment that people enjoy going to work and donít want to strike
4) Fix the rostering system
5) Give a pay raise as a gesture of goodwill , heaven knows we havenít had one for a decade or two
6) Produce a proper contract of employment which doesnít have words such as ordinarily , as may be altered from time to time
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Old 31st Dec 2018, 05:06
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Originally Posted by Tea time View Post
ECAM, Iím glad that you are still happy , the problem arises in that the rest of us see our contracts that we signed up for being degraded and arbitrarily changed on a whim . We are angry and rightly so .
if this deal requires a no strike action itís obviously got the company worried . There is a very simple fix to the problem ,
1) Abide by the contracts that you signed with your employees
2) Treat your employees with respect
3) Create an employment environment that people enjoy going to work and donít want to strike
4) Fix the rostering system
5) Give a pay raise as a gesture of goodwill , heaven knows we havenít had one for a decade or two
6) Produce a proper contract of employment which doesnít have words such as ordinarily , as may be altered from time to time
Surely you jest!!! A contract that actually means what it says. An industry standard? How could CX ever make money with such a burden? They need their ďordinarilyĒ and ďfrom time to timeĒ clauses. Otherwise, they might actually be held to their word. Oh, the horror!!!
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Old 31st Dec 2018, 17:19
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Concessions

Originally Posted by Amber Vibes View Post
Has anyone seen this disingenuous, manipulative drivel? CX is saying they gave you guys CONCESSIONS in exchange for "industrial peace". I wish I could say you can't make this $hit up, but apparently you can...

https://amp.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/...re-mooted-deal

It's beyond outrageous. I hope you don't let this go unanswered....
Remember all the "enhancements" they have made to medical, dental, staff travel, housing.......etc. etc... How's that working out for everybody ??
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