Here We Go Again
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Here We Go Again
SCMP 13 Nov.
https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/...iously-thought
Seems CX just can't help themselves when it comes to "embellishing" facts. That is until they get caught in another scam, price fixing, failing to report to shareholders, failing to report to SFC, lying to cadets that are in Adelaide etc. etc. etc..
Lawsuits, massive profit eating fines to follow. Maybe they can request a ticket surcharge for a variable incompetence factor that can be adjusted every financial quarter ?
https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/...iously-thought
Seems CX just can't help themselves when it comes to "embellishing" facts. That is until they get caught in another scam, price fixing, failing to report to shareholders, failing to report to SFC, lying to cadets that are in Adelaide etc. etc. etc..
Lawsuits, massive profit eating fines to follow. Maybe they can request a ticket surcharge for a variable incompetence factor that can be adjusted every financial quarter ?
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Probably no business case for a Security Module to be added to the system.
What about an OPED from the SCMP on the track record of this management group over the last 3 years? Court Cases for corruption, Fines, Fuel Hedging, Aircraft Cabins, more court cases and now a massive Security breach. How is Slosar still anywhere near this place?
What about an OPED from the SCMP on the track record of this management group over the last 3 years? Court Cases for corruption, Fines, Fuel Hedging, Aircraft Cabins, more court cases and now a massive Security breach. How is Slosar still anywhere near this place?
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Whistle Blowers ??
Today's IntraCX main page is indicating Whistle Blowers are a "Mechanism" for use to report malfeasance etc..
Oh wait, do they not have a person in place called a "Corporate Secretary" who is paid and responsible to whistle blow to the Board of Directors AND the SFC when these things occur.
Would not the CEO, Director of IT, Chairman etc. ALL have fiduciary responsibilities to report errors/mistakes/malfeasance etc. (e.g HACKING)in a timely manner to whomever was concerned however, DID NOT..... !!
So those Senior Leaders who actually get paid and have the responsibility to report these things but do not are now out there trolling for the common folk to rat out the Swire "Leaders"
Ether this is the biggest joke I've ever heard or the best attempt at projecting, deflecting or blame shifting I've ever seen...
Oh wait, do they not have a person in place called a "Corporate Secretary" who is paid and responsible to whistle blow to the Board of Directors AND the SFC when these things occur.
Would not the CEO, Director of IT, Chairman etc. ALL have fiduciary responsibilities to report errors/mistakes/malfeasance etc. (e.g HACKING)in a timely manner to whomever was concerned however, DID NOT..... !!
So those Senior Leaders who actually get paid and have the responsibility to report these things but do not are now out there trolling for the common folk to rat out the Swire "Leaders"
Ether this is the biggest joke I've ever heard or the best attempt at projecting, deflecting or blame shifting I've ever seen...
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The hits keep on coming..
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The hits keep on coming..
what are the odds one of the liable subbies is swire via their management consulting to CX? there's only one non-swire ED and he's got the hot potato on his plate... and still there...
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Slosar and Hogg should get used to it.
They’ll need to perfect their dumbfounded looks, and evasive answers in front of the law makers for when they’re summoned after the inevitable smoking hole in the ground occurs due to their policies over the past decade.....
Of course when that occurs, they’ll have the idiot who was so desperate to get into fltops management he took a job which might as well have been titled “fall guy”. Maybe IT will get a Risk Manager too now.
They’ll need to perfect their dumbfounded looks, and evasive answers in front of the law makers for when they’re summoned after the inevitable smoking hole in the ground occurs due to their policies over the past decade.....
Of course when that occurs, they’ll have the idiot who was so desperate to get into fltops management he took a job which might as well have been titled “fall guy”. Maybe IT will get a Risk Manager too now.
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Slosar and Hogg should get used to it.
They’ll need to perfect their dumbfounded looks, and evasive answers in front of the law makers for when they’re summoned after the inevitable smoking hole in the ground occurs due to their policies over the past decade.....
Of course when that occurs, they’ll have the idiot who was so desperate to get into fltops management he took a job which might as well have been titled “fall guy”. Maybe IT will get a Risk Manager too now.
They’ll need to perfect their dumbfounded looks, and evasive answers in front of the law makers for when they’re summoned after the inevitable smoking hole in the ground occurs due to their policies over the past decade.....
Of course when that occurs, they’ll have the idiot who was so desperate to get into fltops management he took a job which might as well have been titled “fall guy”. Maybe IT will get a Risk Manager too now.
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It's an expensive lifestyle (for flight crew) item that, in their myopic eyes, has no benefit to "their" bottom line or bonuses. It was never planned to and never will see the light of day...
Just the way they operate.
COS18 will benefit their bottom line (near term only) and their bonuses therefore that item "will" be implemented !
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"Slosar said it was “always a judgment call” whether to disclose. While the breach was a matter of great public interest, he said Cathay had taken the view the incident was “not material and not [share] price sensitive”.It would be up to Cathay’s board regarding exactly who in the management team would be held accountable for the crisis, Hogg said. "
what are the odds one of the liable subbies is swire via their management consulting to CX? there's only one non-swire ED and he's got the hot potato on his plate... and still there...
what are the odds one of the liable subbies is swire via their management consulting to CX? there's only one non-swire ED and he's got the hot potato on his plate... and still there...
Under GDPR, if you have personal data on any EU residents, you have a duty to disclose a breach to the authorities within 72 hours, and to the affected persons "without undue delay".
While they did eventually notify the Hong Kong police cyber crime team, it was months after the event.
Even if the attack took place before the GDPR watershed on the 25th of May, the failure to notify within 72 hours was ongoing while the regulations were in force.
These are the facts.
It's now up to the EU whether they want to make an example of Cathay or not.
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https://careers.cathaypacific.com/jo...fficer-5790049
Interesting timing on the application deadline...
Was this DPO a new position or a replacement??
If someone was hired... Bet they were thinking ... "This is not what I signed on for..."
Interesting timing on the application deadline...
Was this DPO a new position or a replacement??
If someone was hired... Bet they were thinking ... "This is not what I signed on for..."
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Surprising anyone would say this because it's not a judgement call at all. I can only assume this was the script from a Public Relations idiot, with zero knowledge of the law.
Under GDPR, if you have personal data on any EU residents, you have a duty to disclose a breach to the authorities within 72 hours, and to the affected persons "without undue delay".
While they did eventually notify the Hong Kong police cyber crime team, it was months after the event.
Even if the attack took place before the GDPR watershed on the 25th of May, the failure to notify within 72 hours was ongoing while the regulations were in force.
These are the facts.
It's now up to the EU whether they want to make an example of Cathay or not.
Under GDPR, if you have personal data on any EU residents, you have a duty to disclose a breach to the authorities within 72 hours, and to the affected persons "without undue delay".
While they did eventually notify the Hong Kong police cyber crime team, it was months after the event.
Even if the attack took place before the GDPR watershed on the 25th of May, the failure to notify within 72 hours was ongoing while the regulations were in force.
These are the facts.
It's now up to the EU whether they want to make an example of Cathay or not.
