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is there any truth to the rumour that Jeppesen have withdrawn from assisting Cathay Pacific at any price and will not be involved any further in developing the CMP project or the JCR next phase add on ?
Rumour only, just seeking clarification.
Rumour only, just seeking clarification.
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+ The company hired to do the HPE just a year or so ago
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Rumour - JCR aint gonna happen, suckers.....
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CMP
Rumour Squasher - JCRThe business case for the implementation of JCR was submitted recently to ECC (Expenditure Control Committee). The business case has been reviewed, but not approved by ECC. ECC raised a number of concerns in relation to the system configuration and implementation as contemplated in the JCR configuration agreement, that would add further risk, cost and complexity into the business.
We are hopeful that we will find a way through these concerns with Jeppesen and the Associations and progress with a new rostering system.
Yes it is true.
Get ready to get robbed again.
Rumour Squasher - JCRThe business case for the implementation of JCR was submitted recently to ECC (Expenditure Control Committee). The business case has been reviewed, but not approved by ECC. ECC raised a number of concerns in relation to the system configuration and implementation as contemplated in the JCR configuration agreement, that would add further risk, cost and complexity into the business.We are hopeful that we will find a way through these concerns with Jeppesen and the Associations and progress with a new rostering system.
Yes it is true.
Get ready to get robbed again.
Last edited by reazasassain; 26th October 2018 at 01:41.
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From: Polar Route
JCR is a lot more than a crew request system. It increases the amount of flying on the published roster by assigning patterns much more optimally than humans can. Like JCP which optimizes patterns within defined constraints, JCR optimizes patterns assignment to individual crews’ rosters as it looks at every possible solution. The constraints work counter to the request system. Tighter constraints equals lower requests filled and vice versa.
CX would be stupid to pass on JCR because it further continues the work the JCP starts. The end goal is fewer pilots required to do the same amount of work. Increase the requests filled and sickness rates will go down. The art is in finding that perfect middle ground where enough requests are filled to lower sickness rates while simultaneously keeping the rosters highly productive. Other carriers have managed to do this, but CX likes to re-create the wheel.
I suspect DL wants nothing to do with JCR. It would essentially automate the entire published roster production process, as is the case at real airlines. If that happens, DL loses much of his power and importance. I have little doubt that DL has been working to sabotage JCR from day one. He doesn’t really care about the patterns flown, but he does care about who gets to do what, who makes EFP, and more precisely who doesn’t and has to fly the bad trips. Rostering is still a punitive tool at CX!
I won’t even attempt to delve into day of ops software (JCT). That is so beyond the pale for a bunch of Stone Age Neanderthals like CX ICM that it’s not worth discussing.
CX would be stupid to pass on JCR because it further continues the work the JCP starts. The end goal is fewer pilots required to do the same amount of work. Increase the requests filled and sickness rates will go down. The art is in finding that perfect middle ground where enough requests are filled to lower sickness rates while simultaneously keeping the rosters highly productive. Other carriers have managed to do this, but CX likes to re-create the wheel.
I suspect DL wants nothing to do with JCR. It would essentially automate the entire published roster production process, as is the case at real airlines. If that happens, DL loses much of his power and importance. I have little doubt that DL has been working to sabotage JCR from day one. He doesn’t really care about the patterns flown, but he does care about who gets to do what, who makes EFP, and more precisely who doesn’t and has to fly the bad trips. Rostering is still a punitive tool at CX!
I won’t even attempt to delve into day of ops software (JCT). That is so beyond the pale for a bunch of Stone Age Neanderthals like CX ICM that it’s not worth discussing.
