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Old 14th Dec 2017, 16:10
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Yes, we'd all be happier away from CX, but we digress.

Meikleour, no need for monthly planning when you can get double your tax bill in the form of a 1pct/12 month tax loan. In fact, you'd be stupid setting aside 17pct of your salary monthly when you can invest that income immediately, get a decent return and get a 1pct tax loan the next year.

Let's get on with some escalation shall we!?
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Start Fore: Fair point! However I have also lost count of the number of discusions I've had on the flightdeck about "sure fire investment oportunities"!!!
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Old 15th Dec 2017, 20:35
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Tax or no tax....the issue is financial discrimination against one group. Stay focussed on the issue.
How many non flying level D staff are there in Hong Kong? Bugger all. The 'we're all in the same basket' crap is the usual spin. The brunt of this slimy decision is borne by HK based Captains no mistake and it's a gutless slap in the face.
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Old 1st Jan 2018, 05:17
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Hi Everyone. Happy New Year. Just remember who you get to thank when you make those tax bill payments in the next few days. I would think most of us have figured out the best way of showing our 'appreciation'.
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Old 2nd Jan 2018, 02:14
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Traf..et al.. as a matter of interest, my request to surrender my tax contributions in instalments has yet to receive a reply…I did underline the effects of the so called 13th month.. one of the contributing factors why I joined this circus from a prestigious legacy mob in the first place..a possible rallying of understanding from the Revenue?? who knows but I believe medical science has a new species of disease.. SMDS.. sever motivational disorder syndrome.. apparently its endemic at CX..vaccines are yet to be fully tried but it is understood that a proper diet of restored RP's and a 13th month is vital to prevent ultimate failure of the trinity of attempting to fly..
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Old 2nd Jan 2018, 18:41
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Or about the equivalent of RH and AT's bonuses (paid for by your lack of a bonus). Be sure to sign-on on time today boys and girls.
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Old 3rd Jan 2018, 10:35
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I borrowed a tax loan, put all the money on some blue chip stocks (00293.HK no longer one of them), hoping the gains will cover my tax payment.
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Old 3rd Jan 2018, 11:03
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Originally Posted by Trafalgar
Just to be 'clear'. I didn't say I 'could not pay my tax bill'. I said that I have been cheated out of a months salary that I normally would have used to cover a portion of my tax bill
But this "month's salary" you refer to is a discretionary bonus, is it not?

Relying on that to pay some of your tax bill is like planning your approach based on the hope that there will be a 2,000ft/min thermal for the last 1/2 mile before touchdown and then blaming the weather when you stack it into the undershoot...

You claim that the fuel hedging was a management decision which pilots shouyld not have to pay for. But you would presumably be happy to take a bonus resulting from the performance of the non-pilot activities (sales, check-in staff, baggage handling, freight factoring, maintenance, facilities mgmt etc etc).

You are in a job where for every employed ATPL there are a dozen who would leap at the chance to train for it, and all you do is constantly whinge about how the aircraft captains (clearly the only people in the airline who do anything - you seem to think every one of your non-captain colleagues is unfit to lick your boots) are sufferiung as a result of their own rank stupidity. If ypou don't like it you are free to go and do something else. I gather Bradford has openings for dustmen - that might be more aligned to your attitudes.
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Old 3rd Jan 2018, 11:45
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Those dozen or so you speak of are free to go for it...yourself included. There are no pianos tied to anyone’s rear end.

In the mean time, try running your airline without the one in 13 you disparage.
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Old 3rd Jan 2018, 12:11
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PDR. There is so much drivel in what you've just said that I am happy for it to remain here as an object lesson in ignorance. Or are you, from your leafy suburb in Farnham, Surrey (said with the proper accent of course) cognizant of the nuances that underlie the current state of affairs at CX (or the past 25 years of management malice)? Perhaps you and 11 others you could round up at your village lawn bowling club would like to take over for a few months for my colleagues and I while our management sorts us out? You seem like someone who would make a perfect manager here in HK (perhaps you once were I suspect) as your tone, arrogance and ignorance are reminiscent of many train wrecks that have come through our management doors in the past.
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Old 3rd Jan 2018, 13:07
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That's right - playing the man is always the best solution to the problem.

I'm only saying what the others are thinking; you are simply showing yourselves up to be people who prize being unprofessional, uneducated and incompetent. You are certainly not showing the Commercial Pilot profession in any particularly good light. If I was one of your colleagues I'd probably want you lot expelled from the profession to avoid embarrassment to the rest.
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Old 3rd Jan 2018, 13:11
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Ah, unprofessional and uneducated and incompetent. I'll put my MBA back on the shelf then.... (and I see you speak for 'all the others' and 'know what they are thinking'). Megalomania is a strong suit of our management team, you would fit right in.

nb: as you also deem us 'incompetent', I trust we won't have the pleasure of your company on one of our flights?
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Old 3rd Jan 2018, 13:45
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Trafalgar's AvatarTrafalgar , 1st Jan 2018 13:17
Hi Everyone. Happy New Year. Just remember who you get to thank when you make those tax bill payments in the next few days


Yes, you get to thank CX for giving you employment and a salary that you get to pay tax on.
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Old 3rd Jan 2018, 13:47
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Right, i'll get back to the coal-face right way guvnor.
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Old 3rd Jan 2018, 14:02
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No, I don’t think I’ll be thanking CX. By the looks of things, they need me a lot more than I need them. Plenty of other good flying jobs out there for experienced captains.
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Old 3rd Jan 2018, 14:09
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And Ecam, when you finally make it in the industry (although with your attitude, doubtful), you will appreciate the fact that a good company 'thanks' it's employees for their dedication and professionalism. I work, and work hard. I don't need to 'thank' CX for anything. I earn my salary. I also expect to be treated properly, hence the volume of comments on this venue and many others as to how epic a failure CX is in that regard. As you don't work here, I don't expect you to understand, just as I wouldn't be arrogant enough to understand the issues where you work.
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Old 3rd Jan 2018, 19:49
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This reminds me of the fast jet days when so many were in awe at my good fortune. No, I worked my ass off to fly fighters for not much money, and I was willing to make the ultimate sacrifice for my country whilst doing so. Lucky? Not at all!
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Old 3rd Jan 2018, 23:09
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Those that "do" understand. Those that "don't" never will. But they still think their opinion has value. You can only have pity
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Old 3rd Jan 2018, 23:58
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... and there’s no point in explaining it to them. This new iPhone, internet, social media generation knows it all; and if they don’t, they just google it. There’s no point in telling them anything...

Firstly because they don’t know how to communicate in person, secondly because their liberal professors at university already taught them everything they need to know, and lastly because we are dinosaurs no longer useful in today’s day and age.

This sentiment is conveniently adopted by CX to save a buck on 13th month, attacks on “expat” conditions, etc. Management plays to this demographic because they are easily conned. Just look at the job advert on the other thread for evidence of this - pure snowflake material and absolutely cringeworthy.
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Old 4th Jan 2018, 05:14
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Just paid them.. with much hardship..
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