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So no 13 th month for Captains

Old 10th Dec 2017, 10:34
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777 FTM appealing to C&T's not to resign saying "consider the money you will loose". Totally missing the point and far too late. My sources tell me a mass resignation letter being prepared. One letter, over 50 signatures and with IMMEDIATE effect. He will be out on his ar*** within days.
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Old 10th Dec 2017, 22:28
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Unless they were the soft ban breakers!
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Old 11th Dec 2017, 01:05
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The BTC's & STC 's are the most important , there aren't that many of them but without them there are no PC's which means that crews without a valid licence cannot operate .
I'm sure they won't mind the time off through no fault of their own .
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Old 11th Dec 2017, 03:16
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joblow

The company has been training up ex STC's and senior sim instructors to do PC's for the last 6 months. These cowboys need talking to as well. They know who they are and we do too.
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Old 11th Dec 2017, 04:19
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Leaving this forum for SLACK where the real action is.
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Old 11th Dec 2017, 15:07
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Originally Posted by joblow View Post
The BTC's & STC 's are the most important , there aren't that many of them but without them there are no PC's which means that crews without a valid licence cannot operate .
I'm sure they won't mind the time off through no fault of their own .
Don't forget the turds in the FTC, "Senior SI's" that continue to kick the feet out from under the general pilot population and continue to do STC work at B scale FO pay...
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Old 11th Dec 2017, 15:25
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Bonus

If someone does feel like asking on Yammer (I'm a Never Yammerer)...

Cut/post this question:

Dear Director People
You indicate "no" Captains will receive the "ex Gratia" payment this year. Is it true then that "Captains", in General Manager leadership positions (e.g. General Manager Line Operations & General Manager Flying), will forgo or NOT be awarded their additional "budget" related bonus for the 2016/17 fiscal year ??
This would only be fair and put ALL Captains on an equal footing regarding financial sacrifices being made.

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Old 12th Dec 2017, 10:32
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Reuters wire service in Geneva reporting RH resigning.
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Old 12th Dec 2017, 11:32
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Translation...?
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Old 15th Dec 2017, 20:59
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It's an easy way to get rid of the senior and thus more expensive crews. They'll continue to attack until a suitable number of senior guys n gals just leave. They're downsizing anyway and it saves paying VRS costs of early retirement. Before the HKAOA sells the farm the membership must give them a list of totally unacceptable concessions including....

No pay for bunk time
Averaging overtime over 3 months... can you imagine the abuse!,
Increasing flight hours above 84 before overtime....we're already way over the industry.
Increasing the annual limit of flight and duty hours.
Retirement was savaged years ago and is crap now....no further reductions.

And removal of the complete BS that we operate under....
Free reserve for 30 days a year....who does that?!!
Last minute changes to rosters or reserve assigned at outports the minute you land from a 16 hour day...!!
Legal rest reduced to the bare minimum after long hauls at outports with no notice..!!
Putting up with crews being punished for commuting to work yet being forced to do exactly that when needed by the company to travel then operate a 16 hour day immediately on arriving at the airport!

Can you imagine a BA crew flying London to Sydney, looking forward to 36 hours rest and being TOLD on arrival that they'll be doing an Auckland turn around on that time off?!!!,

I didn't think so.
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Old 22nd Dec 2017, 02:48
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Originally Posted by oneveryworriedpilot View Post
This is a terrible attitude to have. You should be ashamed of yourself.
SO’ s and FO’s are welcome to have the jumpseat as I’m sure most of us CApt will allow.
As for landing you can have all of mine.

But this is the divide and conquer method they use.
I urge the senior guys now not to let it slip.
There ways we will get our 13th month.
Maybe we will enjoy it on a beach .....
I agree ,I’m happy for FO,s,SO,s, we have hundreds of ways to cost the company our13th month. It’s all better left unsaid.
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Old 9th Jan 2018, 20:15
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This from Alaska Airlines: Our badges say, “Committed to Kindness” and that’s who we are. Huge thanks to our employees for what you do each day. We’re giving our employees a $1,000 bonus with the additional savings we’ll receive this year. "

But not their Captains...right?
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Old 9th Jan 2018, 20:16
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This from American Airlines: " American Airlines to Distribute $1,000 to Each Employee"

But not their Captains...right?
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Old 9th Jan 2018, 20:17
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Remember, CNY is almost upon us.
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Old 9th Jan 2018, 20:20
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So, which management(s) out of AA, AS, CX do you think has the most dedicated, loyal and motivated employees? And guess which management of the three is arrogant enough to believe they are doing a great job...?
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Old 22nd Jan 2018, 00:57
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Well done to the recent CTS turnaround boys! No need to properly roster an overnight pattern when commander’s discretion is always available. Keep that show on the road and never mind the missing 13th month either.
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Old 23rd Jan 2018, 04:24
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Is this possibly true?

Cathay Pacific

All destinations
Over the past 28 days...

895 Weekly flights - 43 min average delay time.

20.9% Delayed flights - The percentage of total flights which arrived more than 15 minutes after their scheduled times.

Source: Flightrader24

Cathay Pacific Airways lags behind peers in fuel efficiency while Qantas is worst polluter, study finds | South China Morning Post
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Old 18th Feb 2018, 18:58
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13th Month recovery

After the insult of the company withholding 13th Month pay I decided if I wasn't going to get it, nor would the company.


At USD500 per application of full reverse in the A330, I have 'spent' my 13th month.

Loss of goodwill costs.
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Old 22nd Feb 2018, 02:29
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I love a slow taxi.
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Old 22nd Feb 2018, 03:26
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I love the scenic route (no directs accepted or requested), I love not worrying about optimum levels, I love a v-e-r-y stable approach (get that Full Flap and Gear down early), I love a safe (slow) taxi. At least $5000 hkd added per flight without even trying. So far, probably up to about $100000 hkd since the 20th of December. A lot of the year left...

(also feel it my duty to council the younger members as to where the better long term prospects lie as far as career planning goes).
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