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CX Resignation Tips

Old 8th Oct 2018, 17:30
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Originally Posted by SandwichOfficer View Post


Not necessarily 100% true.

Anything you have carried over from the previous year they will honour. For the 6 weeks you are owed from this leave year they will pro-rata what you are owed. So if you will work 9 months of the ‘leave year’ they will give you 4.5 weeks leave. They will then roster that as your final 4.5 weeks of your 90 days notice. You’ll also get two office days to hand in all your uniform, iPad, CMC etc. This doesn’t have to be done on these ODs. Just anytime after your last flight.
Obviouly if your not owed 6 weeks of leave, they will not pay you for six weeks. 👻
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Old 8th Oct 2018, 17:47
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Ask around...some guys got leave allocated and then resigned. Their allocated leave was more than their entitlement at the time of resignation (ie. 4 weeks leave consumed vs only entitled to 1 week) and they got a nice bill from accounts to pay them back.

What a great leaving present
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Old 8th Oct 2018, 22:23
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For those giving less than three months notice had there been any reprocussions? I think in most first world countries this isn’t enforceable.
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Old 8th Oct 2018, 23:27
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Originally Posted by letsfly75 View Post
For those giving less than three months notice had there been any reprocussions? I think in most first world countries this isn’t enforceable.
Hong Kong is not a first world country. Think China
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Old 9th Oct 2018, 01:42
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The only organizatios that will hold you responsible for leaving early will likely be in violation of RICO

The ”C” doesn’t stand for Cathay but likely applies none the less.
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Old 9th Oct 2018, 02:04
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Retirement Gift

True story..

A very recent retiree, after many years of faithful service, shows up at the airport with his "repatriation ticket". I took 3 days for him to get on the flight to SYD..
Solly sir, flight full, cannot..

This is what you get as thanks..

#CXit (on sby sublo useless ticket of course)
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Old 9th Oct 2018, 02:13
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What I find rather hypocritical is all the talk of NOT complying with your contract, yet demanding that the company comply with your contract. You can imagine the outcry if the company said we don't need you anymore goodbye and no 3 month payment in lieu.
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Old 9th Oct 2018, 02:27
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NOT complying

Originally Posted by iceman50 View Post
What I find rather hypocritical is all the talk of NOT complying with your contract, yet demanding that the company comply with your contract. You can imagine the outcry if the company said we don't need you anymore goodbye and no 3 month payment in lieu.
Really? I don't know of one single person who is NOT complying with their contract..

Climb back in your management hole.
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Old 9th Oct 2018, 02:45
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Originally Posted by letsfly75 View Post
For those giving less than three months notice had there been any reprocussions? I think in most first world countries this isn’t enforceable.
in HK none. They can withhold the balance of your notice period from your CPF/ provident fund, but they can’t stop you from ‘buying out’ early
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Old 9th Oct 2018, 03:28
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Two individuals who left last year related their experience to me. They had new job offers, but both required them to start in six weeks from the notification date. Visited the office and explained their situations. They were told they "must" comply with their three months notice, no exceptions allowed. Ok...., booked off sick for the next 3 months....started their new jobs and even got paid for the full three months (even though they only wanted to be paid for the six weeks they originally requested). Another own goal by CX management. Muppets. As one of them explained to me, they were hardly going to compromise their new career for the one that had so badly let them down over the years. No brainer.
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Old 9th Oct 2018, 05:01
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When I retired from CX early some years ago I worked the full three months. When I went to say goodbye to the crew controllers one of the senior guys who I knew quite well said he thought I was the only one to give notice who had not gone sick for most of the three months.

Felt a bit silly really !!!
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Old 9th Oct 2018, 05:50
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"repatriation ticket"

Anyone hired after the demise of B scale does not get ANY repatriation assistance. No air ticket, no baggage, no nothing. Local terms. For expats. Enjoy.
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Old 9th Oct 2018, 05:51
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Flex88 as usual the retort is "management" whenever there is a differing opinion. The talk I was referring to on here is the "don't give 3 months notice just walk", well what if the company did the same!

As for booking off sick for three months which Doctor supplied the fraudulent sick note, if they were fit enough to start work 6 weeks later. All good stories wonder how many are just urban legends, spouted by those really vocal posters on Fragrant Harbour telling people to leave, but don't have the courage of their convictions to leave themselves!
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Old 9th Oct 2018, 06:32
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Management stooge...
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Old 9th Oct 2018, 06:55
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what if the company did the same!
Of course the company does exactly that - just have a look at how any court cases the company is involved with! It would not be permanently in court if it complied with its contractual obligations.
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Old 9th Oct 2018, 07:17
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Iceman. I assure you, the story I related is accurate. They went sick and never came back. CX is their own worst enemy, only outdone by how they seem to make enemies of their own employees.
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Old 9th Oct 2018, 08:20
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Originally Posted by Babbalito View Post
Anyone hired after the demise of B scale does not get ANY repatriation assistance. No air ticket, no baggage, no nothing. Local terms. For expats. Enjoy.
incorrect. If you are not PR you will get a repatriation ticket. It’s apparently part of the rules of them sponsoring your visa, they are reasonable for you leaving the country . I got a Pri04 J class repatriation ticket issued the day I handed in my CX ID card and CMC.

Check your info before spouting your ‘facts’.

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Old 9th Oct 2018, 15:32
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AdB29

Read ALL the posts! I am not claiming anything and NO Names have been mentioned, but one poster claimed pilots booked off sick for 3 months (and left the company) but were FIT again to start work at a new airline 6 weeks later. Presumably they had to provide evidence to CX and the HKCAD of their long term sickness. If not then it is just another story, Doctors like to be able to keep their Licence to practice.
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Old 9th Oct 2018, 16:03
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I think the evidence needs to be provided to CAD to return to work using your HKG license. I am sure the pilots in question provided any evidence needed to the new authority that governed their license. Probably amounted to an explanation and standard medical exam to meet class one standards.

eg... I was exhausted due to the rostering on the 747 at CX, I was stressed about the constant attacks from management. I was not fit to fly and would not be fit to fly under that pressure and scrutiny so went sick for three months, management are vindictive and it worries me. My new employer is great and I feel no pressure, am excited to get started.

Your right, Drs value their license to practise, any sensible one would not force a pilot to go to work if he is feeling exhausted and under pressure.
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Old 9th Oct 2018, 23:15
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Happy to be wrong but...

Anyone hired after the demise of B scale does not get ANY repatriation assistance. No air ticket, no baggage, no nothing. Local terms. For expats. Enjoy.
incorrect. If you are not PR you will get a repatriation ticket. It’s apparently part of the rules of them sponsoring your visa, they are reasonable for you leaving the country . I got a Pri04 J class repatriation ticket issued the day I handed in my CX ID card and CMC.

Check your info before spouting your ‘facts’.

If it is 'part of the rules' then I am wrong and happy to be so. Can you quote? My contract includes benefits on location to HKG but is entirely silent on reparation unless hired on an expatriate contract. The inference is that if it's not in your contract then it probably isn't. Perhaps iceman or mc would like to comment. In the meantime, I stand by my remarks: when I quit in the New Year, I will repatriate at my own expense.
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