Willie Walsh-No shortage of Pilots.
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They can propose what they want. I know what my COS says about 'suitable accommodation'. Let's see what further misstep this inept management decide to take. I guess they really do want to shut down the airline over the holidays (and push even more pilots out of the airline). Bring it on.
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It don't get any better than this - Our OW Partner
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...hts-on-it-flaw
How's that computer rostering system working ???
How's that computer rostering system working ???
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You'd think so wouldn't you BUT the paris case was exactly the same and look what happened there and your precious AOA was in on the deal to screw the 42 guys until their compliance was exposed.
If a base closes and there are no other vacancies advertised everyone comes back to HKG.
You'd think so wouldn't you BUT the paris case was exactly the same and look what happened there and your precious AOA was in on the deal to screw the 42 guys until their compliance was exposed.
If a base closes and there are no other vacancies advertised everyone comes back to HKG.
The company will find other vacancies that turn up just when they are needed. It’s the current situation in Australia at the moment, SYD Base numbers reducing and hey presto slots will appear in BNE and MEL. But none that anyone in HKG can bid on.
I have no idea if you’re for or against it.
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MC, thanks for pointing out yet another example of the company's mendacity. Just add's to the pile of reasons why most pilots in this airline are making plans to leave. The best hiring environment in 30 years, and most of us want to become established early on another seniority list. I'm sure there is almost no one who looks back when they leave this toxic place. Please, keep posting, you only help the rest of us resolve to leave. 
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MC, the fact that EVERY comment you make is in support of the company is all the evidence needed to label you a cubicle dwelling cretin. And as for the bases, if you don't have the right to live in a country, you can't bid. And if they have to move members around that are already there, that is fine with me. Or do you think it makes sense to keep uprooting families every time there is a shift of flying within a base area? Seriously, leave CX/Swire. You are a lost and empty soul.
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So you're all for throwing seniority out the window? Screwing over your colleagues in HKG who might want a base one day. If you'd read my post you'd see the problem is YOU CAN'T BID EVEN IF YOU HAD THE RIGHT TO LIVE IN THE COUNTRY. BIDS ARE ONLY ALLOWED BY THE BASED CREW.
That doesn't make much sense.
That doesn't make much sense.
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MC. You are toxic, and a review of your posts clearly shows that. My point is that once you have pilots based in a country, they should have rights to stay there (and I have been disadvantaged by that premise myself). It makes no sense to keep forcing pilots and their families back and forth between a base area and HK. If they are already in a base area, they should be able to move within that to fill base slots as and when the company changes them around. Otherwise there would be chaos in too many lives. Now, go back to your cubicle.
BA are top of the food chain and an employer of choice rather than necessity for a pilot. They can still afford to be fussy as they offer legacy airline conditions of employment, except for recent pension changes. A desirable main base with the ability to commute from other locations and a good fleet/route mix offer a decent lifestyle. No wonder there is very little turnover.
Any shortage will be felt lower down the chain by operators who took full advantage of previous pilot surpluses to drive down pay and conditions. Foreign airlines which previously offered desirable expat packages but continually eroded them and second level airlines with no respect for their employees are in the firing line.
Any shortage will be felt lower down the chain by operators who took full advantage of previous pilot surpluses to drive down pay and conditions. Foreign airlines which previously offered desirable expat packages but continually eroded them and second level airlines with no respect for their employees are in the firing line.
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MC. You are toxic, and a review of your posts clearly shows that. My point is that once you have pilots based in a country, they should have rights to stay there (and I have been disadvantaged by that premise myself). It makes no sense to keep forcing pilots and their families back and forth between a base area and HK. If they are already in a base area, they should be able to move within that to fill base slots as and when the company changes them around. Otherwise there would be chaos in too many lives. Now, go back to your cubicle.
And that’s fair. Because Precious has been in the company 3 years and moving their family is tough.
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MC,
You are implying that the PER base manning was the work of the AAOA.
It was not - our AOAs (all of them) do not have that power. Take up your complaint with mangment [sic].
You are implying that the PER base manning was the work of the AAOA.
It was not - our AOAs (all of them) do not have that power. Take up your complaint with mangment [sic].
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Not talking about upgrades MC. That is a different issue. If they want command, they can go back to HK. That is the chaotic and unworkable system CX has created. If they move slots around a base area, they should have the right to move to a different city, but in the same position. Again, go back to your cubicle.
short flights long nights
Virgin Australia has just dropped the requirement to have any multi engine what so ever to join them...EK will take you..as long as you have a pulse...there is a shortage out there alright!
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Morning Coffee/ idiotic troll. You choose.
I'm not sure what illicit substances you are injecting, sniffing or swallowing, but I'd hazard a guess they'll be in contravention of our Drugs and Alcohol policy.
Your 99.99999999% assertion that the MEL/SYD/BNE base slot reorganization was controlled by the AAOA, was, unfortunately for you, 100.000000% wrong.
But why spoil a good story with the truth.
A poor attempt to cause a little discontent hoping for more divide and conquer.
Another mangment (sic) epic fail.
Whether we like the fact that the slots in MEL/SYD could not be bid for by other HK crew is irrelevant. The whole process was both instigated and controlled, by the company in accordance with the Basings Agreement.
Yes MC, the same document that allows crew to bid for bases, was also (strangely!) upheld by the company in allowing some affected crew to move to other ports like MEL & BNE.
It was not that slots suddenly and magically appeared. The base vacancies in BNE & MEL had increasingly been there for a while. The company, who control their release, had chosen not to previously release them. Again that's their call, not the AAOA.
Time for another 420 puff old boy.
Please keep up the amusing baseless rants - troll/idiot you may be, but sadly all you provide is amusement value showing how increasingly desperate things upstairs are becoming.
It's like watching deck chairs being shuffled on the deck of the titanic, but in slow motion.
I'm not sure what illicit substances you are injecting, sniffing or swallowing, but I'd hazard a guess they'll be in contravention of our Drugs and Alcohol policy.
Your 99.99999999% assertion that the MEL/SYD/BNE base slot reorganization was controlled by the AAOA, was, unfortunately for you, 100.000000% wrong.
But why spoil a good story with the truth.
A poor attempt to cause a little discontent hoping for more divide and conquer.
Another mangment (sic) epic fail.
Whether we like the fact that the slots in MEL/SYD could not be bid for by other HK crew is irrelevant. The whole process was both instigated and controlled, by the company in accordance with the Basings Agreement.
Yes MC, the same document that allows crew to bid for bases, was also (strangely!) upheld by the company in allowing some affected crew to move to other ports like MEL & BNE.
It was not that slots suddenly and magically appeared. The base vacancies in BNE & MEL had increasingly been there for a while. The company, who control their release, had chosen not to previously release them. Again that's their call, not the AAOA.
Time for another 420 puff old boy.
Please keep up the amusing baseless rants - troll/idiot you may be, but sadly all you provide is amusement value showing how increasingly desperate things upstairs are becoming.
It's like watching deck chairs being shuffled on the deck of the titanic, but in slow motion.
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Anything the little Irishman has to say is usually separated from the truth by a healthy distance. BA will have exactly the same problems over the next decade finding pilots as any other airline.
Sounds a bit like this guy!
