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Look they screwed up for whatever reason , their procedures , fatigue , misunderstanding of ATC , who knows . The fact remains that there is a SID in place for terrain reasons . It’s totally unambiguous and very simple . If this crew were so unaware of the terrain surrounding the airport then they should not be coming to HK . Unfortunately until the findings of the report have been published we won’t know . But I see absolutely no reason to change ATC procedures for one screw up
As drop knee said we need more airmanship and situational awareness than rules
As drop knee said we need more airmanship and situational awareness than rules
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Heard it was a new pilot and
ATC canceled Porpa speed constraint. The pilot ended up deleting the constraint from the L 1 key rather than R 1 thereby deleting Porpa altogether.
ATC canceled Porpa speed constraint. The pilot ended up deleting the constraint from the L 1 key rather than R 1 thereby deleting Porpa altogether.
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It doesn’t matter , I have had lots of pilots make errors like that , even accidentally deleting the entire route .
As the Capt you go back to basic modes and follow the SID until you can reset the FMC . It’s not rocket science it’s a thing called airmanship .
What is needed is a pause for cross checking especially on a SID .
As the Capt you go back to basic modes and follow the SID until you can reset the FMC . It’s not rocket science it’s a thing called airmanship .
What is needed is a pause for cross checking especially on a SID .
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It doesn’t matter , I have had lots of pilots make errors like that , even accidentally deleting the entire route .
As the Capt you go back to basic modes and follow the SID until you can reset the FMC . It’s not rocket science it’s a thing called airmanship .
What is needed is a pause for cross checking especially on a SID .
As the Capt you go back to basic modes and follow the SID until you can reset the FMC . It’s not rocket science it’s a thing called airmanship .
What is needed is a pause for cross checking especially on a SID .
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In a modern Airbus, if the TO WYPT is deleted the A/P goes into heading mode on the current heading....what will a Boeing do? Notwithstanding the fact that airmanship dictates not turning towards terrain no matter what the A/P might want to do...
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