Boat in HK good idea and where?
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- unilateral, but contractually HKRI have the right to
- lending on the boat/ owners income
- Standoff is unlikely. Technically liveaboards need a license, which they don't have.
- what negotiated compromise would you see? HKRI to cancel their plans?
- lending on the boat/ owners income
- Standoff is unlikely. Technically liveaboards need a license, which they don't have.
- what negotiated compromise would you see? HKRI to cancel their plans?
agreed, I can guarantee no one outside the DB marina will care that much, especially people outside HK. Think about how many stories you dont hear of from other countries, this will just be one of those
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Seriously, if there is a confrontation come the end of Dec, I bet my profit share that CNN, BBC, Apple Daily will all be there. There is no way that a boat occupant, having paid upwards of $ 10 million for a fiberglass heap, will simply sail off into the sunset of 2018.
I wouldn’t
Owners must be furious , having been taken for 20k/ month mooring fees, to then be sent packing with 4 months notice. Some will leave with a wimper, but the steely , quiet majority, will dig in. And why not?
Cant see the cops forcibly pulling the junks off to the knackers yard. Time will tell .
There has to be negotiated solution. There are some big wig bankers in DB marina, they can afford the legal support and have connections. This is the key.
A nods as good as a wink when it comes to dealing with legal proceedings in HK. Those with barristerial connections will prevail. Mark my words.
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Yes let's demonstrate.
Last time that happened in China (where we live) Tanks and students remember.
International news. Global impact.
Anything change?
Nope.
Seriously.........
Last time that happened in China (where we live) Tanks and students remember.
International news. Global impact.
Anything change?
Nope.
Seriously.........
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And there is the problem. You think too small and look where it has got you. 90% of C&T are NOT in the HKAOA because it doesn't represent them. It represents the SO's and FO's who are by far the majority and they frankly are glad to have a job because no one else would employ them. And before you reply "but they are leaving now". Take look at the actual numbers. The truth is hard to swallow but there it is. Wait for these junior pilots to make a move and you'll be waiting a long long time, like never. They simply haven't the b****lls. Others In this post have suggested that the C&T's resign. Why should they. They are not in the union and you want to distance them even further. Good luck with that. What is needed is a UNITED front not this pathetic I'm a member crap. The HKAOA needs to reach out to the senior captains ( 42% members ) and the C&T captains and offer a way forward. Or you can keep sticking your head in the sand and hope the very people you want to alienate fight your battles for you. Wake up.
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Whats C&T got to do with the plight of those on boats in DB, FFS?
How about a whip round for the DB guys? 5k each from all AOA/DPA members, should pay off their outstanding loans, and allow them to at least remove their junk to Australia etc. They may then start a new life with a deposit to buy an apartment. Or at worse, be able to afford a rental.
Otherwise, they may sink rather than swim when the lights go out.
How about a whip round for the DB guys? 5k each from all AOA/DPA members, should pay off their outstanding loans, and allow them to at least remove their junk to Australia etc. They may then start a new life with a deposit to buy an apartment. Or at worse, be able to afford a rental.
Otherwise, they may sink rather than swim when the lights go out.
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Whats C&T got to do with the plight of those on boats in DB, FFS?
How about a whip round for the DB guys? 5k each from all AOA/DPA members, should pay off their outstanding loans, and allow them to at least remove their junk to Australia etc. They may then start a new life with a deposit to buy an apartment. Or at worse, be able to afford a rental.
Otherwise, they may sink rather than swim when the lights go out.
How about a whip round for the DB guys? 5k each from all AOA/DPA members, should pay off their outstanding loans, and allow them to at least remove their junk to Australia etc. They may then start a new life with a deposit to buy an apartment. Or at worse, be able to afford a rental.
Otherwise, they may sink rather than swim when the lights go out.

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Moving how? A lot of these boats are not fit to go to sea. Once in Aus how much would it cost to get it passed all the legislation? I think many would require redesigning and rebuilding.

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All boats are "sea worthy" and have to be by law. That doesn't mean you would risk sailing/motoring over to Thailand in them but they must meet certain requirements. The new stubbies are built to a good standard and whilst some minor specifications might need alteration ie metric/imperial threads they would for the most part meet international standards.
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Oh you mean put it on a cargo ship. Your quote is ludicrous. Who gave you that quote, are you sure it was not a quote in AUD? United, you appear to be clueless about most things, but offer advice and comment as if you have experience in everything.

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Shipping is by container ( ie inside a container ).
Hong Kong container port to Sydney paid HKD53,000. Does not include Aussie import tax.
Boat depatred HKG 7 days ago. ETA SYD 18th October.
unitedabx, can you supply updates on how it all goes?
We had an uphill battle bringing a second hand aircraft into Australia via shipping - took days of interna(l inc wings) of cleaning and removing foreign objects, and we still got lucky getting it customs cleared.
We had an uphill battle bringing a second hand aircraft into Australia via shipping - took days of interna(l inc wings) of cleaning and removing foreign objects, and we still got lucky getting it customs cleared.
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