CX Recruitment Ban
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My age... and porky pies
Well OK.. I am 30 in October ( OLD very OLD). Retirement by what 65 and CX mandatory (55?)
That be what 35 years or 25. Depending on how you look at it
from above the arctic circle...
That be what 35 years or 25. Depending on how you look at it
from above the arctic circle...
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The ban will be over when the new recruits outnumber the old farts...then it will turn into a reverse ban...
...kind of like that globe atlas I saw a few years ago; according to some Australian cartographer, the north is really the south, with North America and Europe on the bottom and the lands of plantains on top...
...kind of like that globe atlas I saw a few years ago; according to some Australian cartographer, the north is really the south, with North America and Europe on the bottom and the lands of plantains on top...
It's been a while since i bothered to read what all the 'experts' not currently employed by CX have to say about this topic. You are what you write. I don't blame guys for wanting to get ahead..we've all been there. I've seen people offer to fly for nothing. My question is what do you expect after 20 plus years of hard work,re-location,family upheaval,and expense? Do you aspire to be a 45 year old Captain with 20 years service,2 kids and a mortgage....fired on a whim?Would you like to accept a position,get settled,do a great job and then have 8 years+ of constant sign or **** off drastic changes to the original offer? Anyone who thinks the airline is bleeding obviously doesn't work there. Who else in the world is even capable of nearly 1 BILLION USD net profit with 65 aircraft? This is purely an accounting exercise with loyalty and long service and going the extra mile counting for zero on the balance sheet. The guys involved in this fiasco have watched it unravel over at least a decade and have finally decided to protect their interests. If you believe the aviation world is just hopping from one contract to a lesser one then by all means join up. Give it a few years and you'll be in exactly the same pos. as the guys are now...vote with your feet? how many times do we have to keep running? The pilots have taken the 30% pay cuts,2 weeks less leave,we have only a 900 hour flying limit and 60 hour(continuous!) duty limit to work to. 3 weeks reserve a month...i think long haul people are entitled to a roster.....not turn up for a 3 hour turn around and be sent to los angeles..or pulled from a sim for a long haul. There are guys flying london-hongkong-frankfurt-hongkong-london in 5 days!!!!Most of the changes are in place. The fight is about a roster,and contract that means just that...a contract...two people sign and it remains inviolate until renegotiated...is that asking too much?
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In answer to the original question.
I believe a couple of ex Ansett SCAB captains were at CX city today doing interviews for S/O positions.... But I'm sure they will take note of the ban.... NOT
I believe a couple of ex Ansett SCAB captains were at CX city today doing interviews for S/O positions.... But I'm sure they will take note of the ban.... NOT
CX Admits that Recruiting Ban is Working
Mister Geezer in starting this thread asked:
On an RTHK (Radio Hong Kong) interview, Mr Tony Tyler, Director of CX Corporate Development, finally admitted that the Recruiting Ban was stopping good pilots from joining Cathay Pacific.
So we have the definitive answer and this thread can be now closed?
CX Recruitment Ban
My question is, just how many people are taking notice of the recruitment ban? Has anyone tunred their back and accepted an offer of employment.
I am just very curious as to what the real figure is.
My question is, just how many people are taking notice of the recruitment ban? Has anyone tunred their back and accepted an offer of employment.
I am just very curious as to what the real figure is.
So we have the definitive answer and this thread can be now closed?
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Pourqoui pas? Once again a selective interpretation of a quote must be the truth, lol. Just because some good pilots are not joining CX at the moment doesn't mean that we are not getting other good pilots to fill the slots. And once again the hard thing, it appears, for the AOA to comprehend is the good pilots not joining are the ones they should want to join. Can't it be understood that this pathetic immoral ban is hurting the AOA far worse than the company.
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I believe that Mister Geezer's question was a quantitative one, whereas FlexibleResponse's quote is qualitative and thus neither definite nor even pertinent to the original point.
So we still do not know how many.....
So we still do not know how many.....
Flex,
Are you really trying to say that someones decision to join under the ban or not is a measure of their Skills as a pilot??? .
Whilst you might like to have an opinion of their morality (Though I for one would dissagree with you!) to suggest they are not a skilled driver because they don't conform to your politics doesn't so much border on the ridiculous as leap headlong into it!!
The guys turning Cathay down are good pilots. The ones joining are good pilots. The company is happy with either. Which would the HKAOA rather have joining?
Are you really trying to say that someones decision to join under the ban or not is a measure of their Skills as a pilot??? .
Whilst you might like to have an opinion of their morality (Though I for one would dissagree with you!) to suggest they are not a skilled driver because they don't conform to your politics doesn't so much border on the ridiculous as leap headlong into it!!
The guys turning Cathay down are good pilots. The ones joining are good pilots. The company is happy with either. Which would the HKAOA rather have joining?
