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Another reason to demand a proper pay and benefit package

Old 7th Jun 2016, 20:02
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Another reason to demand a proper pay and benefit package

I won't do this job for free.

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Old 11th Jun 2016, 06:05
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So does taking proper exercise and eating a sensible diet.

Though the amount lately of rather young chaps croaking early or shortly
after retirement causes one to take pause.
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Old 11th Jun 2016, 07:17
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So does taking proper exercise and eating a sensible diet
Have you SEEN the tripe they serve up as crew meal lately??
When you are at work most days, like on certain roster groups, no time for exercise nor sensible eating.
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Old 11th Jun 2016, 13:33
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Boo bloody hoo.
Actually enjoying the new special meal options, and all hotels we go to have a gym, choose your battles.
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Old 11th Jun 2016, 14:27
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The meals on the aircraft are crap. If that's what they are calling "special", I am curious about what they would call dog food? My dog would pass on most of the stuff they try to pass off as food. It's disgusting!
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Old 11th Jun 2016, 18:27
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Originally Posted by DropKnee View Post
The meals on the aircraft are crap. If that's what they are calling "special", I am curious about what they would call dog food? My dog would pass on most of the stuff they try to pass off as food. It's disgusting!
are we still talking about this?
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Old 11th Jun 2016, 22:42
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are we still talking about this?
We will keep discussing it till it gets better!
As opposed to
The commonwealth way, which is to do what our little lord wants us to do👊
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Old 12th Jun 2016, 01:29
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A few points:

1. You don't do it for free.

2. Presumably before you became a pilot at a major international airline (assuming you are a pilot) you realised that the equivalent of shift work would be involved?

3. Finally, and with all due respect, if you want to go to sleep at the same time each night, get a different job.

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Old 12th Jun 2016, 03:55
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Direct the supper and bedtime complaints to your mum, she's the one responsible for those.

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Old 12th Jun 2016, 04:46
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Meals all round are much improved. At least one manager is listening and trying to improve things. It is my choice to work here and I am going no where else. I am most certainly not doing it for free. Worried about dying young? go somewhere else.
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Old 12th Jun 2016, 09:58
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...and the A50 Koolaid.
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Old 12th Jun 2016, 16:33
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I swear most of you should apply for management jobs. The point of the article is that we have amongst the most arduous rosters in the industry, ergo, we expect to be well compensated for the obvious health damage that accumulates over the years. I didn't "choose" to be abused and rostered without any consideration for normal human physiological considerations, our uncaring management have made that choice. If I am going to stay and put up with it, I at LEAST expect to be paid appropriately. As for most of the rest of you posting here, it's attitudes like yours that only encourages our management to continue with these policies.
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Old 13th Jun 2016, 00:43
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I take my own thermos full of coffee on every flight if possible, I eat before work at home or in the hotel every time & order room service when I get there if necessary. I rarely eat a CX meal or the cold disgusting "coffee" we get served. Not the way it is meant to be but there you go!
Like most things with CX you are better off to find your own "solution".
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Old 13th Jun 2016, 03:34
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I won't do this job for free.

Why airline pilots have a higher risk of skin cancer

It seems I'm screwed. I can't work at night when I'm meant to be asleep and I can't work during the day unless I cover up with SPF 50. Either that or I should be paid a billion dollars a year to help assuage my fear of potential risks associated with my chosen profession.

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Old 13th Jun 2016, 04:36
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miss one full night of sleep a week....not unreasonable given our current rostering on some fleets.... therefore that accumulates to 1 year of missed sleep every 7 years. I never seem to be able to recover what I have lost each month so sure fatigue is an issue in a cumulative sense.
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Old 13th Jun 2016, 06:33
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So Quit. Resign. Terminate the contract. Leave.

No? Too much invested. Too old? No better jobs?

Then such it up because the price is obviously right.
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Old 13th Jun 2016, 07:14
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miss one full night of sleep a week
whaaaat!!!!

on average 3 a week for me, alternating of course with early morning sign on's.

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