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A typical "Hell Hath no Fury" case.
The ex has sought to destroy him by fair means or foul (more foul than fair) and has most likely succeeded. She has destroyed her own reputation in the process but has no doubt gained some morbid sense of satisfaction. The money spent on legal fees could have been better spent on seeking psychiatric help.
The real losers in all of this are undoubtedly the daughters, filled with bile dispensed by their mother and now old enough to realise what has actually gone on.
No winners in this but the lawyers.
A close friend who has spent many decades in family law has only one piece of advice. Settle early and generously and get it in writing. If not settled early it often ends up like this case.
The ex has sought to destroy him by fair means or foul (more foul than fair) and has most likely succeeded. She has destroyed her own reputation in the process but has no doubt gained some morbid sense of satisfaction. The money spent on legal fees could have been better spent on seeking psychiatric help.
The real losers in all of this are undoubtedly the daughters, filled with bile dispensed by their mother and now old enough to realise what has actually gone on.
No winners in this but the lawyers.
A close friend who has spent many decades in family law has only one piece of advice. Settle early and generously and get it in writing. If not settled early it often ends up like this case.
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It's gratifying to finally see some of the TRUE story come out. Perhaps now the nasty brigade will crawl back under their rocks. Many of us have gone through difficult personal situations. Most of us haven't had even more misery piled on through thoughtless, cruel and unthinking colleagues. Many of you have made me sick reading these pages over the past couple of weeks. Some of you are truly awful and nasty people. Eventually those qualities will manifest themselves in your own lives. Maybe reflect on finding yourself in a hopeless, unfair and threatening situation, and then being turned on by your own colleagues as well.
(to SWH. Thank you for taking the time and effort to illuminate some of the salient facts of the case. You have done this situation a great service).
(to SWH. Thank you for taking the time and effort to illuminate some of the salient facts of the case. You have done this situation a great service).
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shortly2, you probably should have paid the support the way the government and court system required you to pay rather than directly to your ex. If done right and according to court order, child support is not a big deal.
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You are just full of advice aren't you Ovalholer? Perhaps you just can't comprehend that sometimes things aren't quite as 'simple' as you seem to want to make them out to be. What if the courts asked you to pay 50% of YOUR salary to a devious, lying ex who had played with the system, and at the same time you were trying to support a new wife and family? Simple huh?
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Then I would fight it in the courts, which would be the only reasonable course of action.
If the courts ordered me to pay 50% of my salary to an ex, I would not hold the ex responsible for the courts' actions.
The system can always be manipulated. One needs to remain IN the system to manipulate it. Trying to handle things on one's own leads to imprisonment.
If the courts ordered me to pay 50% of my salary to an ex, I would not hold the ex responsible for the courts' actions.
The system can always be manipulated. One needs to remain IN the system to manipulate it. Trying to handle things on one's own leads to imprisonment.
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In a Hong Kong jail probably a good idea to stick to the local cuisine you are offered. Paying for Western food will only get you special "extra" ingredients for the gweilo.
The real losers in all of this are undoubtedly the daughters, filled with bile dispensed by their mother and now old enough to realise what has actually gone on.
No winners in this but the lawyers.
No winners in this but the lawyers.
There are websites where people get together and share strategies of how to make their exs lives miserable. If you think people on here are vindictive, you have not seen anything.
I hope he had some good mates, it sounds like this was a never-ending saga. Life changes like divorce, being removed from your children, relocating your home are all very stressful. It take a person a very good character and resolve to get through it. It sounds like he kept it together and moved on with his life, looks like she didn't.
Children are smarter than people give them credit for, play the long game and they will come around and work out what is going on.
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How true.
The children do work it all out in due course. The great tragedy is that the vindictiveness and bile often ruins their childhood as they have to take sides for their own self preservation.
One of my mates who retired from here a few years back was divorced 30 years ago and fulfilled all his responsibilities to the letter of the law and beyond. This still didn't stop his ex-spouse coming back through the UK courts and trying for more 20 years after the divorce.
There's a lot of hate in the world. Let's try and take some of it off this forum.
How true.
The children do work it all out in due course. The great tragedy is that the vindictiveness and bile often ruins their childhood as they have to take sides for their own self preservation.
One of my mates who retired from here a few years back was divorced 30 years ago and fulfilled all his responsibilities to the letter of the law and beyond. This still didn't stop his ex-spouse coming back through the UK courts and trying for more 20 years after the divorce.
There's a lot of hate in the world. Let's try and take some of it off this forum.
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All too familiar....when's the last time anyone heard of a woman going to jail for failure to pay spousal support? .....crickets?
The real losers are the guys who help to vote in the "progressive" lefty/labour governments that pride themselves in having created a legal system heavily biased against men!
Why would any man get married these days...?
Stay single boys.......
The real losers are the guys who help to vote in the "progressive" lefty/labour governments that pride themselves in having created a legal system heavily biased against men!
Why would any man get married these days...?
Stay single boys.......
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The individual in question isn't perfect, and neither are any of us. Regardless, I know how desperately stressed and despairing he must feel, and I for one would not want to add to that abject misery of another human being. As for many of you on this thread, I question your humanity.
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I've kind of sat on the sidelines on this one but am disheartened by the negative responses directed toward a brother pilot, and someone who I consider to be a nice guy and good man.
A lot of Pharisees throwing stones and forensics of a tricky situation that frankly could have happened to any one of us. If not in this direction another one; to me this is the ultimate case of someone getting caught up in a circumstance and being the target of continuous vindictiveness of another--well beyond what should be allowed to happen.
I had wished the thread would simply go away at its onset out of respect for the individual. Guess that ain't gonna happen.
Thought we were better than this, fellas.
A lot of Pharisees throwing stones and forensics of a tricky situation that frankly could have happened to any one of us. If not in this direction another one; to me this is the ultimate case of someone getting caught up in a circumstance and being the target of continuous vindictiveness of another--well beyond what should be allowed to happen.
I had wished the thread would simply go away at its onset out of respect for the individual. Guess that ain't gonna happen.
Thought we were better than this, fellas.
Shep. Get some time in. This individual and his NTSB mates took ASL commands almost the day they were announced. And were quite happy to piss on the burning wreckage of our delayed command prospects and tell us what a superior bunch they were. As a result their dance cards haven't been exactly full ever since. And they chose to f@ck over anyone who got in the way. Career opportunists in every respect. I don't envy him his position, however it's of his own making. Basically trying to be a smart arse. ASL. ? F@ck the lot of them.
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Never personally met the chap. Saw him few times at the gym. Seemed ok.
I am not an ASL pilot but I challenge all the scribes and Pharisees here on this forum about their choice if that situation was proposed to them....
Have a good day and be thankful you are not in his position now
I am not an ASL pilot but I challenge all the scribes and Pharisees here on this forum about their choice if that situation was proposed to them....
Have a good day and be thankful you are not in his position now
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The curious side of this thread is those who have jumped on board it to champion the "working G days" approach. I get that jail is not nice and I get that some think pilots shouldn't go to jail. But I don't really understand those who proclaim him a great guy every time someone bitches that he works G days. It's like there's a bunch of G day workers out there who want compassion for their plight of working G days.
"Do I choose super compact rosters or not, do I pick Christmas off or New Years, do I answer my phone on days off or not?"
Weird.
"Do I choose super compact rosters or not, do I pick Christmas off or New Years, do I answer my phone on days off or not?"
Weird.
Challenge accepted. The point is that we're not being overly Pharasaic. These " positions" were offered to all of us at the time. Exactly 4 of them took it. Initially. Complete opportunists more than happy to screw over the system.
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In a nutshell:
Contempt of his fellow pilots:
Founding ASL as part of NTSB
Working every G and L day he can, despite contract compliance
Is he really a FELLOW pilot or just a pilot?
Contempt of court in Canada: Guilty with an outstanding arrest warrant for failing to pay court-ordered child support
Contempt of court in Arizona: Guilty for failing to pay a court-ordered arrears as well as for failing to set up a payment mechanism for current support
Contempt of court in Hong Kong: Guilty for opening two bank accounts, telling CX to deposit his salary there and then sending that money to his new wife in the US (over US$200,000) in defiance of a HK court order.
Contempt of his two daughters who have seen how greed is more important than blood.
Any questions?
Contempt of his fellow pilots:
Founding ASL as part of NTSB
Working every G and L day he can, despite contract compliance
Is he really a FELLOW pilot or just a pilot?
Contempt of court in Canada: Guilty with an outstanding arrest warrant for failing to pay court-ordered child support
Contempt of court in Arizona: Guilty for failing to pay a court-ordered arrears as well as for failing to set up a payment mechanism for current support
Contempt of court in Hong Kong: Guilty for opening two bank accounts, telling CX to deposit his salary there and then sending that money to his new wife in the US (over US$200,000) in defiance of a HK court order.
Contempt of his two daughters who have seen how greed is more important than blood.
Any questions?
Walter White: Let's break it down. Hydrogen. What does that give us?
Gretchen Schwartz: We're looking at 63%.
Walter White: Sixty-three, that is a big bite. My next step's gotta be oxygen.
Gretchen Schwartz: Oxygen, 26%.
Walter White: Twenty-six. There you have your water.
Gretchen Schwartz: Carbon, 9%.
Walter White: Carbon, 9.
Gretchen Schwartz: For a total of 98%.
Walter White: Right.
Gretchen Schwartz: Nitrogen, 1.25%.
Walter White: One-point-two-five.
Gretchen Schwartz: That brings you to 99 and a quarter. Which only leaves you with the trace elements down where the magic happens.
Walter White: Oh, wait a minute. What about calcium? Calcium's not a trace. Got a whole skeleton to account for.
Gretchen Schwartz: You would think, right? Calcium's only 0.25%.
Walter White: What? That low? Seriously? Damn, I never would've thought that. Okay, so where does iron fit in.
Gretchen Schwartz: Iron. 0.00004%
Walter White: What? You can't have hemoglobin without iron.
Gretchen Schwartz: Apparently, it don't take take much. No doubt. Go figure.
Walter White: Sodium.
Gretchen Schwartz: Sodium, 0.04%. Phosphorus, 0.19%.
Walter White: Point-one-nine. There we go. So the whole thing adds up to... 99.888042%. We are 0.111958%. Shy.
Gretchen Schwartz: Supposedly that's everything.
Walter White: Yeah? I don't know, it just... it seems like something's missing, doesn't it? There's got to be more to a human being than that.
Gretchen Schwartz: What about the soul?
Walter White: The soul? There's nothing but chemistry here.
Gretchen Schwartz: We're looking at 63%.
Walter White: Sixty-three, that is a big bite. My next step's gotta be oxygen.
Gretchen Schwartz: Oxygen, 26%.
Walter White: Twenty-six. There you have your water.
Gretchen Schwartz: Carbon, 9%.
Walter White: Carbon, 9.
Gretchen Schwartz: For a total of 98%.
Walter White: Right.
Gretchen Schwartz: Nitrogen, 1.25%.
Walter White: One-point-two-five.
Gretchen Schwartz: That brings you to 99 and a quarter. Which only leaves you with the trace elements down where the magic happens.
Walter White: Oh, wait a minute. What about calcium? Calcium's not a trace. Got a whole skeleton to account for.
Gretchen Schwartz: You would think, right? Calcium's only 0.25%.
Walter White: What? That low? Seriously? Damn, I never would've thought that. Okay, so where does iron fit in.
Gretchen Schwartz: Iron. 0.00004%
Walter White: What? You can't have hemoglobin without iron.
Gretchen Schwartz: Apparently, it don't take take much. No doubt. Go figure.
Walter White: Sodium.
Gretchen Schwartz: Sodium, 0.04%. Phosphorus, 0.19%.
Walter White: Point-one-nine. There we go. So the whole thing adds up to... 99.888042%. We are 0.111958%. Shy.
Gretchen Schwartz: Supposedly that's everything.
Walter White: Yeah? I don't know, it just... it seems like something's missing, doesn't it? There's got to be more to a human being than that.
Gretchen Schwartz: What about the soul?
Walter White: The soul? There's nothing but chemistry here.
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What can I say?
Some people are happy to associate with others who go to Wan Chai to cheat on their wives, thinking it's fine and they're "good guys" all around.
I think these people are despicable.
Although you may think the prisoner is a victim of the system, he's made his own bed over these many years in many different and despicable ways. He deserves to be where he is now and where he will be in the near future.
I am sympathetic to those who have been screwed by the system through no fault of their own. This is all of his own doing.
Some people are happy to associate with others who go to Wan Chai to cheat on their wives, thinking it's fine and they're "good guys" all around.
I think these people are despicable.
Although you may think the prisoner is a victim of the system, he's made his own bed over these many years in many different and despicable ways. He deserves to be where he is now and where he will be in the near future.
I am sympathetic to those who have been screwed by the system through no fault of their own. This is all of his own doing.