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Tech Quiz Again!

Old 11th Aug 2014, 15:19
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Tech Quiz Again!

Are we actually getting any money for doing this or is it just duty hours?

Has anyone managed to get an invite code to TechQuiz | All your Tech Quizzes belong to us it might save me the hassle!
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Old 11th Aug 2014, 16:37
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Another FREEBIE - all in "good faith" mate

"STRICTLY MEMBERS ONLY" - the way it should be.

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Old 11th Aug 2014, 20:32
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Brilliant concept, these guys have the Silicon Valley gene to see an opportunity and use tech to provide the solution.

I can only think of one 3rd floor guy who has the intellect to write the code for a counter to it.
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Old 12th Aug 2014, 01:21
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Dam it missed out, looks invite code has been enforced now. I have emailed them for one...anyone else been successful?
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Old 12th Aug 2014, 03:42
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iflyplanes

Are we actually getting any money for doing this or is it just duty hours?
It is actually part of being a professional pilot and required by the regulator. FFS grow up.
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Old 12th Aug 2014, 05:23
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Right on brother. People like Iceboy make me sick.
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Old 12th Aug 2014, 05:44
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Unfortunately, Iceman is probably giving you your next line check.
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Old 12th Aug 2014, 10:05
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This is precisely why I print off the tech quiz and do it in the cruise, at work. No pigging way am I doing it in my own time or at even worse on my days off.

Regarding the 'techquizVol8s' website. Emailed them and got the password. Works a treat
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Old 12th Aug 2014, 10:17
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If you lot can't complete a Tech Quiz without a Vol 8, you are truly retarded.
 
Old 12th Aug 2014, 12:16
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I could see how the tech quiz COULD be useful if it actually highlighted useful, practical information. Instead, most of the questions are about the arcane, or are retarded, "how-well-can-you-read" type questions like:

Stabilized Approach is defined as:

A) Stabilized on Final Approach Path and Landing Configuration achieved before 1500ft AAL

B) Stabilized on Final Approach Path and Landing Configuration achieved at not lower than 1500ft AAL or below

C) The inverse of answer B with regard to the converse of answer A

Or some dumb sh*t like that
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Old 12th Aug 2014, 13:10
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I think everybody should take the Tech Quiz seriously since the demise of Flight Engineers. Could have saved the Polish 767 having to make a belly landing for the lack of knowledge that the reset of an open circuit breaker on the panel behind the F/O's bulkhead, would have enabled the alternate gear extension.
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Old 12th Aug 2014, 14:39
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The aircraft has circuit breakers?
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Old 12th Aug 2014, 15:25
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Hang about, I thought that 'under no circumstances' were we to EVER touch a circuit breaker. I was under the impression that only a ground engineer was allowed to reset a circuit breaker, and only on the ground.
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Old 12th Aug 2014, 16:05
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Hang about, I thought that 'under no circumstances' were we to EVER touch a circuit breaker. I was under the impression that only a ground engineer was allowed to reset a circuit breaker, and only on the ground.
Maybe I am not seeing the sarcasm, you are joking, aren't you? I knew a guy who once left the controls, without an autopilot, whilst single pilot, for 20 second stints until he had managed to remove a floor panel with a leatherman, locate a hydraulic line and then cut through it resulting in a huge mess, at least the gear came down though. I never did ask how he knew to do that, I can only assume he vigilantly completed tech quizzes so as well as knowing the colour of light a pushbutton will illuminate, he also knew which hydraulic line to cut in the event the gear was hydraulically locked up and unable to freefall.
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Old 12th Aug 2014, 21:42
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What has happened to this profession?
Simple: Pay peanuts, get monkeys. But these current new hires come with earrings, hair-gel, a wonderful "I want it now" attitude, but sadly no Leatherman, limited technical knowledge, ability to do tech quiz's without help and bugger all hours or relevant flying experience.

One option: Bring back DEFO hiring of pilots that can fly, or CX will likely end up as JAFAA leaving smoking holes around the region.

By the time our newer hires worm their way into the Left Seat, they will still sadly have acquired little real experience, such that when faced with an out of the box problem, they have no experience to fall back on. Currently, some of the cadets benefit from being paired with experienced/direct entry FO's, but this safety net won't last long at the current rate of hiring people with little to zero experience.

So what do you get then, two ex cadets, a big bang, a random problem, two blank looks and a mutual "WTF do we do now?" when the problem doesn't have an EICAS/ECAM or paper solution.
Years of making bunks, eating sandwiches and falling asleep on the Jump seat taxi-ing out for take-off aren't much help at that stage.

Cranky old guy rant over.

Last edited by LongTimeInCX; 13th Aug 2014 at 23:25. Reason: Clarifying that Booger & similar are not the target
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Old 13th Aug 2014, 02:18
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Spot on LTiCX.
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Old 13th Aug 2014, 06:33
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LTiCX - still haven't worked out how to change the record have ya? Yes we agree with you, get over it. Hate to see you keel over when we go the MPL way - a course that actually doesn't require you to go solo at any point!

Apparently a manager was heard saying that they would love a bit of DEFO recruitment. Purely to see almost half the AOA (Mainly LEPs SOs/JFOs/FOs) leave the AOA in disgust. Thus weakening an already toothless union.
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Old 13th Aug 2014, 09:19
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Not to mention that ironically, LTiCX makes the same mistake that many ill-informed DEFOs made about myself and many of my peers who joined on the DESO scheme. The only avenue of entry for the PAX fleet at that time and indeed for many years prior.

I remember one such conversation on the Flt deck when I was an SO with a newly minted DEFO.

DEFO: " You're a bit old to be an SO, did you change careers or something?"
Me : 'No, I've been flying for over 12 years before I joined CX'
DEFO: "Really?! oh, did you fail an upgrade or something?"
Me : <sigh> 'No'
DEFO: "Ooh, so you just flew lighties then, couldn't get FO like me with my B1900 time!"
Me : 'Err, no. My last 7 years was as TCN on a 50 ton jet'
DEFO: "Whaaaa??? Why are you a cadet then??"
Me : (swears under breath) 'I'm not.'
DEFO: "Huh!? But you're an SO..."

At which point the CN saves me from pulling my own head off in frustration by turning to him and (only half jokingly) saying 'geez you're stupid', before explaining the concept of DESOs and how he is several hundred numbers behind said DESOs on the seniority list. A fact which confused him even more!
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Old 13th Aug 2014, 10:08
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".....pulling my own head off in frustration..."

That's why the bunk has a curtain.
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Old 13th Aug 2014, 10:18
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I remember one such conversation on the Flt deck
Jeez, those dumbass DEFO's.

Only 7 years on a 50ton jet? SO material.
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