CX Loads HKG-DXB

[pilotcpb]

Hi guys, I am trying to get from HKG to DXB on Sept 13/14. I reference the loads obtained on the CX booking website and it shows many seats open, is this accurate? My airline is full and I'm making backup plans. Thanks

[Flying Clog]

13 Sept-
CX 745 = 10 biz, 0 eco
CX 731 = 7 biz, 0 eco

14 Sept-
CX 745 = 3 biz, 0 eco
CX 731 = 0 biz, 0 eco

Seeing as CX doesn't upgrade staff , I would say you have very little chance of getting on any of these flights.. Sorry.

[pilotcpb]

Thanks so much for checking!!

[nitpicker330]

Not that I'm trying to defend CX at all but CX will and do upgrade as required. All the check in staff need to do is follow the policy correctly, something they don't always do.

[AQIS Boigu]

I have been upgraded a few times...but only on regional sectors...

[main_dog]

Not that I'm trying to defend CX at all but CX will and do upgrade as required. All the check in staff need to do is follow the policy correctly, something they don't always do.

I instead have never seen them do so. A little sad, because it is a cheap way of fostering goodwill. It is particularly galling when the airplane leaves with empty business class seats and staff travelers are left on the ground, when a simple upgrade, if not to the staff traveler then to a y-class frequent flyer pax (in order to free a seat for the staff member), would make everyone happy.

I am a little ashamed every time I get upgraded on more staff-friendly airlines (BA, AF, KL) as I know I will never be able to reciprocate for them as long as I fly for CX... another lost opportunity.

[michaeljpotter]

Main - if it makes you feel better EK will uplift cargo rather than their own staff let alone any other staff and will never upgrade staff so dont feel too bad

[broadband circuit]

I instead have never seen them do so

From HKG I agree, but from outports, especially long/medium haul outports, I've been upgraded.

[asianeagle]

I've been upgraded twice ex HKG...both times at the gate
(into First class too!)

[Master Caution]

Some of you don't know how our staff travel system works ( or should work).

Basic principle; a non- payload limited flight should not ( barring last minute no-shows) depart with empty seats.
So if you hold staff EY (not J or F) ticket you maybe upgraded at the last minute but more likely checkin staff will upgrade a full fare Pax - typically MPO members in status order so as to free up EY seats for EY staff/ interline pax

[nitpicker330]

I'll say it again:--

"If" Airports staff follow company policy they will upgrade and the Aircraft should not depart with empty seats.

Staff travelers need to be a little pro active in this regard, monitor what's going in and if need be report any violations to BN. He does follow up.

[nitpicker330]

Curtain----do I need to spell it out for you?

Ok I will:---
1/ check the CFP before to see if it is weight restricted
2/ check the loads in each class
3/ if its marginal then contact the Captain/FO/SO ( whoever you feel comfortable calling or whoever you know ) and ask them to keep close contact with the HAS dispatcher at the Aircraft. I've done this for sub loader friends many times as Captain and you'd be surprised what a little "monitoring" can achieve at the time. Even just to make sure they release Crew Seats and Jump seats.

This should give you enough ammunition to achieve the results.
If you still get offloaded then call the crew later to see what the actual loadings were on their flight. If empty seats then report to BN.

There will be times when even these proactive measures won't help, **** happens unfortunately and even staff playing by the rules at check in can be snowed under with changes and pressure.