Hand shake nuisance
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Hand shake nuisance
Yes, I know, there are bigger problems around on this planet.
But, for the love of Jesus Christ, can we pleeeeease stop the idiotic hand shake procedure. We hate it, they hate it, it is useless, not part of asian culture and just a huge pain in the b.
But, for the love of Jesus Christ, can we pleeeeease stop the idiotic hand shake procedure. We hate it, they hate it, it is useless, not part of asian culture and just a huge pain in the b.
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Yes, I know, there are bigger problems around on this planet.
But, for the love of Jesus Christ, can we pleeeeease stop the idiotic winge procedure. I hate it, you hate it, it is useless, not part of adult culture and just a huge pain in the b.
But, for the love of Jesus Christ, can we pleeeeease stop the idiotic winge procedure. I hate it, you hate it, it is useless, not part of adult culture and just a huge pain in the b.
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From: with the ex-CX pond scum (a zoologist was once head of Flight Ops)
Ahh yes, the handshakes. Have avoided the ritual since the SARS scare.
Also a pain the ass, unhygienic and above all, insincere.
And wait 'til we get the A380!
Also a pain the ass, unhygienic and above all, insincere.
And wait 'til we get the A380!
Last edited by Captain Dart; 17th May 2013 at 07:01.
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From: HKG
Glad to see all of the appreciation for Jesus Christ.
Exodus 20:7
English Standard Version (ESV)
7 “You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes his name in vain.
(BTW- this doesn't apply only if you believe in Him. You can jump off Taipei 101, and not believe in gravity, it won't matter one bit!)
Cue the God haters.
Oh yes, do not care for the handshake ritual.
Exodus 20:7
English Standard Version (ESV)
7 “You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes his name in vain.
(BTW- this doesn't apply only if you believe in Him. You can jump off Taipei 101, and not believe in gravity, it won't matter one bit!)
Cue the God haters.
Oh yes, do not care for the handshake ritual.
Last edited by ASH1111; 17th May 2013 at 07:07.
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From: with the ex-CX pond scum (a zoologist was once head of Flight Ops)
No,the back of the bus doesn't help, they track you down. My personal technique is to loiter near the water cooler, then tag on the end of the line.
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As mentioned, nobody likes it - not them, not us - and yes, it probably is insincere because it's forced upon.
Having said that, I feel it does serve a purpose in at least giving everyone a chance to meet each other. At the very least, it will give them a "human face" if you will, for who is on the other side of the locked door. We say "call us anytime you see anything unusual" and we try to set the tone of open communication - but without a face-to-face meet and greet beforehand I think it will actually hinder communication and put a even larger gap between us and them.
Perhaps just a introduction in the briefing room, or near the couches would be better than the awkward and insincere handshaking ritual. But before we eliminate the handshake, we need SOMETHING to replace it. Everybody already goes about doing their own thing as soon as we get to the aircraft, and in some cases we don't see them again for the rest of the flight/duty - the handshake at least gives them a chance to see who is flying them and for us to "set the tone", and maybe even a sense of unity/team (rare, but I've seen some captains work miracles)
Having said that, I feel it does serve a purpose in at least giving everyone a chance to meet each other. At the very least, it will give them a "human face" if you will, for who is on the other side of the locked door. We say "call us anytime you see anything unusual" and we try to set the tone of open communication - but without a face-to-face meet and greet beforehand I think it will actually hinder communication and put a even larger gap between us and them.
Perhaps just a introduction in the briefing room, or near the couches would be better than the awkward and insincere handshaking ritual. But before we eliminate the handshake, we need SOMETHING to replace it. Everybody already goes about doing their own thing as soon as we get to the aircraft, and in some cases we don't see them again for the rest of the flight/duty - the handshake at least gives them a chance to see who is flying them and for us to "set the tone", and maybe even a sense of unity/team (rare, but I've seen some captains work miracles)
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You can jump off Taipei 101, and not believe in gravity, it won't matter one bit!
But seriously, maybe we can just high-five or fist-bump before the flight for christ's sake!
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Different procedure
Not crazy about shaking hands myself, but I think I might try another approach
Give the girls a kiss and hug hello . The guys maybe not so much ,but once the word spread that you like to kiss and hug I can bet you that the girls would all be on the bus before you get to immigration
Give the girls a kiss and hug hello . The guys maybe not so much ,but once the word spread that you like to kiss and hug I can bet you that the girls would all be on the bus before you get to immigration
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From: SE Asia
chill guys -
trying to talk sense into a religiously deluded man is like trying to play chess with a pigeon.
No matter how good your game is, the pigeon will will only knock the pieces over, crap on the board and strut around like it is victorious.
trying to talk sense into a religiously deluded man is like trying to play chess with a pigeon.
No matter how good your game is, the pigeon will will only knock the pieces over, crap on the board and strut around like it is victorious.
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Hand cream
What I hate most is when they have recently smothered their hands in some very slimy and stinky hand cream. It is most unhygienic and i have to wash my hands as soon as I get on the aircraft.
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I know, I know. Long ago, and far away, millions and billions of years ago..
(cue the fairy tale music)
Nothing started spinning really fast (where the inertial laws came from to act upon this speck of dirt, we don't know) exploded and made everything.
Living matter came from non living matter (haven't yet been able to replicate that in a controlled environment yet, but hey..), the first and second Laws of thermo dynamics were violated, Law of angular momentum violated, and here you are, along with strawberries, giraffes, blue whales..really?
You have made the statistically impossible-now possible, as long as you sprinkle in a few more billion years as needed. (Season to taste, of course)
Those silly Christians actually believe that a design has a designer, a painting has a painter, a building has a builder, and creation has a creator. Ha! Simpletons.
Nope. Can't be. Some guy named Richard Dawkins told me so. It's the British accent, get's me every time!
Forgive the sarcasm, take the point.
We have an answer for "In the Beginning" you have a best guess, with astronomical odds that can't even be mathematically quantified, they are so small. Why again are we on the defensive??
I do give the Atheist credit though for the incredible faith they are able to exhibit in their mathematically unquantfiable event. So much faith in fact, that the rest of us are simpleton fools.
Over and out!
(cue the fairy tale music)Nothing started spinning really fast (where the inertial laws came from to act upon this speck of dirt, we don't know) exploded and made everything.
Living matter came from non living matter (haven't yet been able to replicate that in a controlled environment yet, but hey..), the first and second Laws of thermo dynamics were violated, Law of angular momentum violated, and here you are, along with strawberries, giraffes, blue whales..really?
You have made the statistically impossible-now possible, as long as you sprinkle in a few more billion years as needed. (Season to taste, of course)
Those silly Christians actually believe that a design has a designer, a painting has a painter, a building has a builder, and creation has a creator. Ha! Simpletons.
Nope. Can't be. Some guy named Richard Dawkins told me so. It's the British accent, get's me every time!
Forgive the sarcasm, take the point.
We have an answer for "In the Beginning" you have a best guess, with astronomical odds that can't even be mathematically quantified, they are so small. Why again are we on the defensive??
I do give the Atheist credit though for the incredible faith they are able to exhibit in their mathematically unquantfiable event. So much faith in fact, that the rest of us are simpleton fools.
Over and out!
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From: the ridge where the west commences
Hitchens, Dawkins - never understood why these people have to be so noisily evangelistic about their opinions. Do they think I care?
Unlike their creator they seem to need to employ the shrill small voice.
And to think this all started with a handshake. It is a strange and marvelous world we live in.
Unlike their creator they seem to need to employ the shrill small voice.
And to think this all started with a handshake. It is a strange and marvelous world we live in.
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From: HKG
You have made the statistically impossible-now possible
There are 300,000,000,000 stars in the milky way galaxy.
There are 1,000,000,000,000 galaxies in the visible universe.
It is not statistically impossible when you use these sorts of number.
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From: Europe
Why can't you, both believers and atheists, just admit that you cannot prove your thoughts, therefore cannot know, therefore all become agnostics. Would make life much easier.
Oh and by the way, Allah akbar.
Oh and by the way, Allah akbar.
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The vastness of space must be an illusion, it cannot go on infinitely, whatever exists at the boundaries of space lies the answer. At that point, whoever or whatever is there if asked would probably say the insincere Cathay hand shake policy needs to be ditched pronto because it's just daft.
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From: with the ex-CX pond scum (a zoologist was once head of Flight Ops)
It's not so much the hand cream, it's the thought that some of them may have been wiping their bot-bots not long before, especially on a morning flight!
And will the people with an imaginary friend please stop hijacking this thread?
And will the people with an imaginary friend please stop hijacking this thread?
Last edited by Captain Dart; 17th May 2013 at 21:33.