CX diversion due Fire Warning.
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STP, absolutely spot on!
It drives me nuts to fly with guys who look out the window and are content to be totally oblivious and completely unprepared for a worse case scenario. I'm not saying that one should be anal and build approaches into the FMC for every airport they pass, but instead, every hour or so, take a few minutes to make sure that you've got a couple of good options sussed out.....weather, notams, MRA, etc. What's the reason not to? Exceptional pilot ability???
Waiting until the fire warning goes off to begin considering options is being caught with your pants down....
It drives me nuts to fly with guys who look out the window and are content to be totally oblivious and completely unprepared for a worse case scenario. I'm not saying that one should be anal and build approaches into the FMC for every airport they pass, but instead, every hour or so, take a few minutes to make sure that you've got a couple of good options sussed out.....weather, notams, MRA, etc. What's the reason not to? Exceptional pilot ability???
Waiting until the fire warning goes off to begin considering options is being caught with your pants down....
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sadly, all the young turks need prescriptive approaches to flying since they have zero experience and little in the way of airmanship. You can't can airmanship and open when required. Simply being aware..on a constant basis, without verbalising all the rubbish about,"suitable, notams, wx etc"..that is the mark of experience and the osmosis of airmanship that is causal to it. This constant system failure synopsis must be hammered in at the initial training phase and not as a bolt on to long haul ops..IMHO
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Raven, maybe they just don't want to socialize with you. You should fly all your flights with CXorcist, I hear he's the only one who really monitors Enroute diverts during the flight (the RIGHT way). That way you both could get some rest back in the bunk instead of staring at the overhead in abject fear with one hand on the doorknob and the other on the handset.
Come on guys, put those short sleeves back on and fly on down here with the rest of us.
Come on guys, put those short sleeves back on and fly on down here with the rest of us.
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Obrien....
"staring at the overhead in abject fear"
Only someone who has never done anything beyond following a magenta line could have the chutzpah to make as stupid a comment as that.
Gee, do you think that if I fly for another 40 years I might get over my fear and be as brave and exceptional a "pilot" as you are? Did they teach you to be fearless at Adelaide?
I couldn't care less if someone like you socializes with me or not. Besides, what could you and I possibly talk about? Flying? I tried that with my earlier post....and look at your adolescent response.
"staring at the overhead in abject fear"
Only someone who has never done anything beyond following a magenta line could have the chutzpah to make as stupid a comment as that.
Gee, do you think that if I fly for another 40 years I might get over my fear and be as brave and exceptional a "pilot" as you are? Did they teach you to be fearless at Adelaide?
I couldn't care less if someone like you socializes with me or not. Besides, what could you and I possibly talk about? Flying? I tried that with my earlier post....and look at your adolescent response.
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Sarcasm: a sharp or cutting remark or taunt.
Look, I understand there may be a bit more load to carry flying with someone less capable. But after 40 years, with all that experience, be eager to pass it on to those youngsters - don't take it as an affront to your operation. Staring out the window, they probably are oblivious - so fill the void, tactfully, and they'll probably thank you for it. How much did you learn from the regular line pilots during your career? The ones that respected YOU no matter what your level of experience.
How much from the sky gods, the ones always proclaiming their way is best, with little respect for the newer types. Not much, huh.
Look, I understand there may be a bit more load to carry flying with someone less capable. But after 40 years, with all that experience, be eager to pass it on to those youngsters - don't take it as an affront to your operation. Staring out the window, they probably are oblivious - so fill the void, tactfully, and they'll probably thank you for it. How much did you learn from the regular line pilots during your career? The ones that respected YOU no matter what your level of experience.
How much from the sky gods, the ones always proclaiming their way is best, with little respect for the newer types. Not much, huh.
