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...and Saint Paul Island have stated a belief that pilots who turn Cathay down now will be employed in the future.When pressed SPI retreated from that position and has been silent on the issue ever since.
You seem to expect that a union is responsible not to its own members, but to recruit new joiners to replace its own members. Ludicrous!
I challenge to tell us all what help you will give me, if I refuse an offer to replace you in your job. Are you offering a bribe for my non-action? Should I get a medal because I haven't murdered anyone today? This is insulting.
A simple message of thanks to all those who have turned down jobs at Cathay while the ban is in place. You have made the correct decision for your own career by doing so. There are many others in airlines around the world, including CX, who have done the same in the past and who have gone on to fly great careers. Goondiwindi is one of them (see #6 in his post above), so am I. We don't expect to be showered with gold for what we both felt to be fundamentally right, indeed we hardly give it a second thought from day to day; this is just a measure of our character and what we believe in. Don't let others tell you that self-interest should override your own sense of what is right or wrong; you have many years ahead of you.
SPI
Quote from my post:-
"My question was in response to the inferance in your first post that anyone turning down employment with Cathay could expect to be employed by them once the ban is lifted. I was wondering on what basis you made that inference. "
Quote from your reply:-
"I have re-read my post and see no such inference"
Well, which is it? Do you believe pilots turning Cathay down will be employed later? If so, on what do you base that belief? Are you willing to suggest to the HKAOA that they treat people who are out of work because they turned down a job with Cathay in the same way the 49ers are being treated?
Yes there are many other airlines, but if it is so easy to get a job with one, why don't YOU go and work for one?
As to your challenge, if I get sacked, that is between ME and my employer. If YOU are offered a job, that's between YOU and your employer.
I offer you a similar challenge. If you accept a job with another airline, that's one less job available for the pilots who have turned down Cathay. Will you and the other 49ers undertake to NOT accept a job with any other airline until the ban is lifted one way or the other? You expect people not to take "your" job, will you agree not to take someone elses?
Quote from my post:-
"My question was in response to the inferance in your first post that anyone turning down employment with Cathay could expect to be employed by them once the ban is lifted. I was wondering on what basis you made that inference. "
Quote from your reply:-
"I have re-read my post and see no such inference"
Well, which is it? Do you believe pilots turning Cathay down will be employed later? If so, on what do you base that belief? Are you willing to suggest to the HKAOA that they treat people who are out of work because they turned down a job with Cathay in the same way the 49ers are being treated?
Yes there are many other airlines, but if it is so easy to get a job with one, why don't YOU go and work for one?
As to your challenge, if I get sacked, that is between ME and my employer. If YOU are offered a job, that's between YOU and your employer.
I offer you a similar challenge. If you accept a job with another airline, that's one less job available for the pilots who have turned down Cathay. Will you and the other 49ers undertake to NOT accept a job with any other airline until the ban is lifted one way or the other? You expect people not to take "your" job, will you agree not to take someone elses?