DragonAir C Scale
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DragonAir C Scale
There was a thread here a couple of days ago about a possible new pay scale at KA but it seems to have disappeared. Is anyone able to give us the details, and will they be starting expat recruitment again soon?
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C Scale has been announced so I don't know why the thread pulled. Package is aimed at poaching Hong Kong Express & Hong Kong Airlines pilots I guess. If expat pilots are already in Hong Kong working without housing allowance, why pay B Scale?
KA puts pilots directly into the RHS with a few hundred hours. With the new MPL even less. They will shake the trees on this C Scale and take who ever falls.
KA puts pilots directly into the RHS with a few hundred hours. With the new MPL even less. They will shake the trees on this C Scale and take who ever falls.
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Expats again
To answer your question Sue it is believed that Dragonair are to start recruiting expats again with a new contract as of 1st April. This contract will be the same for all new joiners be they HKID holders or others. Current local pilots are being offered the opportunity to switch across to it too.
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Wait here a sec........ Ah that's better, just changed my jocks after pi55ing myself laughing 
Dragonandon C scale, hands up who didn't see that coming, if you put your hand up take yourself off line straight away, you're too stupid to fly a space shuttle
10-15 a/c over 5 years, really ? Are they still pedalling that bulls hit and are there really pilots dumb enough to believe it?
10 years plus to command, flogging around china in flogged out 320/321s and even more flogged out hand me down CX 330s, HKA starting too look good.....oh crap, did I say that out loud ?
Dragonandon C scale, hands up who didn't see that coming, if you put your hand up take yourself off line straight away, you're too stupid to fly a space shuttle
10-15 a/c over 5 years, really ? Are they still pedalling that bulls hit and are there really pilots dumb enough to believe it?
10 years plus to command, flogging around china in flogged out 320/321s and even more flogged out hand me down CX 330s, HKA starting too look good.....oh crap, did I say that out loud ?
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Ask the KA pilots whose family members have had life threatening illnesses how the KA medical insurance was 
You'd think if you and your family had to breath poison every day they would at least look after you?
You'd think if you and your family had to breath poison every day they would at least look after you?
deal.
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Level Two says they won't drop the standard like they did during HKG Report just to attract people to sign up on C Scale.
And if they can't get suitable pilots they will revert back to Expat B?
Muwahahahahah.
And if they can't get suitable pilots they will revert back to Expat B?
Muwahahahahah.
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DEFO
Kathey, in case you haven't spotted it KA now recruiting DEFOs again.
Dragonair - Careers : Flight Crew Position
Dragonair - Careers : Flight Crew Position
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Is this contract (if you can call it that) worth the paper its written on? What an utter joke!
Nearly everything can be amended unilaterally or removed by the company at it's sole discretion, even the Child Education Allowance (Which is inferior compared to my current CEA).
Most importantly is the EFP (Excess Flying Pay) Overtime Threshold and Payment Policy is not binding and can also be unilaterally amended or removed by the company. Imagine the mess considering all of us are contractually protected with regards to EFP whilst new recruits aren't.
Not even a local pilot would be silly enough to sign over to this!
No Housing, inferior Child Education Allowance, loose Contract etc
Buyer Beware!!
Nearly everything can be amended unilaterally or removed by the company at it's sole discretion, even the Child Education Allowance (Which is inferior compared to my current CEA).
Most importantly is the EFP (Excess Flying Pay) Overtime Threshold and Payment Policy is not binding and can also be unilaterally amended or removed by the company. Imagine the mess considering all of us are contractually protected with regards to EFP whilst new recruits aren't.
Not even a local pilot would be silly enough to sign over to this!
No Housing, inferior Child Education Allowance, loose Contract etc
Buyer Beware!!
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HKA's schedule is way better than KA's so it is possible to commute in HKA.
When the LongHaul routes start to build up that situation may change. But for the moment, too many SIN/PVG/PEK/NRT turnarounds.
And too many late night freighters.
No commuting roster. Rostering staff keep leaving.
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Sad but true Kathey, when I started with KA I needed 20 aircraft to arrive or 120 pilots to leave, 3 1/2 years later I needed 20 aircraft to arrive or 120 pilots to leave.
Even if the supposed 6 aircraft arrive in the next 2 years, that will put a command at around 10 years for anyone who joined post 2007.
As for commuting, piece of cake with KA, its just a matter of how often you want to see your family. If once or twice a month is satisfactory you might be ok.
Even if the supposed 6 aircraft arrive in the next 2 years, that will put a command at around 10 years for anyone who joined post 2007.
As for commuting, piece of cake with KA, its just a matter of how often you want to see your family. If once or twice a month is satisfactory you might be ok.