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Old 15th November 2011 | 09:10
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Where are those greener pastures?
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Old 15th November 2011 | 09:46
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And if you were going to leave, why hang around for one month of taxable pay?
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Old 15th November 2011 | 10:10
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The rumor mill's saying plenty are waiting to pick it up before quitting for pastures greener.
Christ, that rumour does the rounds every bloody year.
Why would you wait til the 13th month payout. You have to give 3 months notice anyway.
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Old 27th November 2011 | 07:33
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13th month Yes/No

Well well well,
It is in the Friday telex. " We will be reviewing things further in the coming week, and we may have to make some tough decisions to reduce expenditure, without impacting on what we need to do next year"
As usual, flog and bully the staff.
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Old 27th November 2011 | 10:18
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Re the subject, my little book says...

"...it will only be capped or not paid when the profit is marginal or negative..."

Well, an interim profit for the first six months of 2011 of $2808 million is pretty fantastic (second best result of the last 10 years). Hardly marginal or negative, I'd say.
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Old 27th November 2011 | 13:11
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The Friday Telex, 25 November 2011

"We’ll be reviewing things further in the coming week and we might have to make some tough decisions to help bring down expenditure, without impacting on all the important things that are happening next year."

No 13th month ?
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Old 27th November 2011 | 13:40
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Although no company does expectation management like our Company.....

Even when considering that the economic news has softened a bit lately, the reported profit in the first six months was huge, it is inconceivable that no 13th month is paid!
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Old 2nd December 2011 | 05:22
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fish

So I was just on intracx and there was a memo on the home page saying that our annual 13th month discretionary bonus would be paid (to eligible staff) on our December pay.

Now it's gone. Was it a mistake? . I copied the link so I can confirm that it existed but the actual page is no longer there.

I assume that the other existing memo regarding a staff pay increase in 2012 does not include cockpit crew right?

Merry Chri errr I mean Happy Holidays!
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Old 2nd December 2011 | 05:43
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Nice to see its back. CX has given me cause to be skeptical in the past!

Off shopping...
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Old 2nd December 2011 | 08:55
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Love it.

A pay increase of 4.5 - 5% for all eligible HK staff. Why can't the AOA get onboard with this?
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Old 2nd December 2011 | 09:58
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Who says pilots are not considered employees in the same markets as the rest of employees who need and deserve this 2012 adjustment? And why?
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Old 2nd December 2011 | 13:47
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Something to do with our incremental pay scales I've heard said.
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Old 2nd December 2011 | 13:52
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IS,
Management say so, just like the A and B scale FA's didn't get it.
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Old 3rd December 2011 | 12:28
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Those FA who are on salary scale will have the scale being adjusted effective Jan 2012
Those who are on top tier will have an one-off gratuity
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Old 4th December 2011 | 14:43
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Why can't the AOA get on-board with this?
Why? Because the FAU GC were actually prepared to threaten industrial action over Christmas/New year/Chinese New year. That could damage bookings.

Action is not really required. A "timely and credible" threat of action will affect the bottom line. So Management can justify an expenditure to ensure the profit.

The AOA GC are about as scary as a 5 year old with a toy sword. The chance of anyone getting their eye poked out are minimal.
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Old 5th December 2011 | 01:52
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Are you in the AOA?

If you are, read your back updates. There was a pay rise in Jan 11, HDP increased in July 11, there.s another pay rise next May and HDP goes into the 13th month payment in next year.
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