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27 Signs That The Nuclear Crisis In Japan Is Much Worse...
I cannot personally speak for the veracity of this site, but then I think all politicians are liars as well. Perhaps the truth lies in-between?
#1 Japanese Prime Minister Naoto Kan is urging all people living within 30 kilometers of the Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear facility to stay indoors.
#2 Andre-Claude Lacoste, the head of France's Nuclear Safety Authority, says that the containment vessel surrounding the No. 2 reactor at Japan's Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear complex is "no longer sealed".
#3 Radiation levels in Tokyo are already 10 times above normal levels.
#4 Reuters is reporting that some residents of Tokyo are already starting to flee the city.
#5 Radiation levels in one city north of Tokyo, Utsunomiya, were recently reported to be 33 times above normal levels.
#6 Radiation levels in the city of Saitama have been reported to be 40 times above normal levels.
#7 According to Japanese Prime Minister Naoto Kan, the "possibility of further radioactive leakage is heightening."
#8 The Japanese government is admitting that radiation levels near the Fukushima Dai-ichi complex are very harmful to human health.
#9 According to the World Nuclear Association, exposure to over 100 millisieverts of radiation a year can lead to cancer. At this point the level of radiation being measured right outside the number 4 reactor at the Fukushima Dai-ichi complex is 400 millisieverts per hour.
#10 A U.S. Navy crew that was assisting in relief efforts was exposed to a month’s worth of nuclear radiation in just a single hour.
#11 According to the U.S. Navy, low levels of radiation have been detected at their bases in Yokosuka and Atsugi.
#12 The USS Ronald Reagan recently detected significant levels of radiation 100 miles off the Japanese coast.
#13 The operator of the Fukushima Dai-ichi complex has pulled out 750 of the 800 workers that were working at the facility.
#14 The French embassy in Tokyo is advising French citizens to leave the city.
#15 The German embassy in Tokyo is advising all German citizens to leave the country entirely.
#16 German technology company SAP is evacuating their offices in Tokyo.
#17 Austria has announced that it is moving its embassy from Tokyo to Osaka due to fears about the radiation.
#18 Finland is urging all of their citizens to leave Tokyo.
#19 The Czech military is sending planes to Japan specifically to evacuate the Czech Philharmonic Orchestra.
#20 Air China is canceling many flights to Tokyo.
#21 The Chinese Embassy has announced that it will be evacuating all Chinese citizens from the Miyagi, Fukushima, Ibaraki and Iwate prefectures.
#22 Russia is making preparations to evacuate civilians and military units from the Kuril Islands.
#23 Physicist Frank von Hippel recently told the New York Times the following about this disaster: "It’s way past Three Mile Island already".
#24 The president of France's nuclear safety authority says that this crisis is now almost as bad as Chernobyl was....
"It's clear we are at Level 6, that's to say we're at a level in between what happened at Three Mile Island and Chernobyl."
#25 There have been reports of extremely high radiation at another nuclear facility in Japan. It has been reported that at the Onagawa nuclear plant radiation that is 700 times the normal level was detected at one point.
#26 One anonymous senior nuclear industry executive told The Times Of India that Japanese power industry managers are "basically in a full-scale panic" and that "they don't know what to do".
#27 It is also being reported that there were over 600,000 spent fuel rods stored at the Fukushima Dai-ichi complex. Most of these rods were apparently stored near the top of the 6 reactor buildings. There have already been major explosions at three of those buildings. It is now feared that there is now nothing to prevent many of these spent fuel rods from releasing radiation into the atmosphere. That is really, really bad news.
From: 27 Signs That The Nuclear Crisis In Japan Is Much Worse Than Either The Mainstream Media Or The Japanese Government Have Been Telling Us
#1 Japanese Prime Minister Naoto Kan is urging all people living within 30 kilometers of the Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear facility to stay indoors.
#2 Andre-Claude Lacoste, the head of France's Nuclear Safety Authority, says that the containment vessel surrounding the No. 2 reactor at Japan's Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear complex is "no longer sealed".
#3 Radiation levels in Tokyo are already 10 times above normal levels.
#4 Reuters is reporting that some residents of Tokyo are already starting to flee the city.
#5 Radiation levels in one city north of Tokyo, Utsunomiya, were recently reported to be 33 times above normal levels.
#6 Radiation levels in the city of Saitama have been reported to be 40 times above normal levels.
#7 According to Japanese Prime Minister Naoto Kan, the "possibility of further radioactive leakage is heightening."
#8 The Japanese government is admitting that radiation levels near the Fukushima Dai-ichi complex are very harmful to human health.
#9 According to the World Nuclear Association, exposure to over 100 millisieverts of radiation a year can lead to cancer. At this point the level of radiation being measured right outside the number 4 reactor at the Fukushima Dai-ichi complex is 400 millisieverts per hour.
#10 A U.S. Navy crew that was assisting in relief efforts was exposed to a month’s worth of nuclear radiation in just a single hour.
#11 According to the U.S. Navy, low levels of radiation have been detected at their bases in Yokosuka and Atsugi.
#12 The USS Ronald Reagan recently detected significant levels of radiation 100 miles off the Japanese coast.
#13 The operator of the Fukushima Dai-ichi complex has pulled out 750 of the 800 workers that were working at the facility.
#14 The French embassy in Tokyo is advising French citizens to leave the city.
#15 The German embassy in Tokyo is advising all German citizens to leave the country entirely.
#16 German technology company SAP is evacuating their offices in Tokyo.
#17 Austria has announced that it is moving its embassy from Tokyo to Osaka due to fears about the radiation.
#18 Finland is urging all of their citizens to leave Tokyo.
#19 The Czech military is sending planes to Japan specifically to evacuate the Czech Philharmonic Orchestra.
#20 Air China is canceling many flights to Tokyo.
#21 The Chinese Embassy has announced that it will be evacuating all Chinese citizens from the Miyagi, Fukushima, Ibaraki and Iwate prefectures.
#22 Russia is making preparations to evacuate civilians and military units from the Kuril Islands.
#23 Physicist Frank von Hippel recently told the New York Times the following about this disaster: "It’s way past Three Mile Island already".
#24 The president of France's nuclear safety authority says that this crisis is now almost as bad as Chernobyl was....
"It's clear we are at Level 6, that's to say we're at a level in between what happened at Three Mile Island and Chernobyl."
#25 There have been reports of extremely high radiation at another nuclear facility in Japan. It has been reported that at the Onagawa nuclear plant radiation that is 700 times the normal level was detected at one point.
#26 One anonymous senior nuclear industry executive told The Times Of India that Japanese power industry managers are "basically in a full-scale panic" and that "they don't know what to do".
#27 It is also being reported that there were over 600,000 spent fuel rods stored at the Fukushima Dai-ichi complex. Most of these rods were apparently stored near the top of the 6 reactor buildings. There have already been major explosions at three of those buildings. It is now feared that there is now nothing to prevent many of these spent fuel rods from releasing radiation into the atmosphere. That is really, really bad news.
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I love the latest news letter from the GMO dated 16 March 2011.
"We have been in contact with Airbus and Boeing in regards to radioactive contamination of an airframe; we have been advised that any contamination results in the aircraft effectively having to be retired from service. We take this advice very seriously."
Only now after being advised with no insurance on planes do they make the decision to suspend overnights.
Go figure
"We have been in contact with Airbus and Boeing in regards to radioactive contamination of an airframe; we have been advised that any contamination results in the aircraft effectively having to be retired from service. We take this advice very seriously."
Only now after being advised with no insurance on planes do they make the decision to suspend overnights.
Go figure
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We're all GONNA DIE!!!!!!!!
JedThrust, with respect - that website you referenced appears to be the "New York Post" of websites.
Quotes like:
- "We are not just talking about a repeat of Chernobyl.
We are possibly talking about "many Chernobyls", and...
- "Why would they be evacuating if there was no threat?"
(er, as a basic precaution and in the interests of duty-of-care perhaps??)
...are the very definition of scare mongering. I'm not trying to downplay the seriousness - any nuclear incident/accident is serious, but let's be honest: the subject matter on this issue is basically too complex for the lay person to understand.
I would rather listen to the IAEA's updates on the issue, they might just have a little more credibility than a guy who runs a blog on the upcoming global "Economic Collapse" and includes links to where you can buy gold and silver coins (& iPads?!?) on eBay!
Quotes like:
- "We are not just talking about a repeat of Chernobyl.
We are possibly talking about "many Chernobyls", and...
- "Why would they be evacuating if there was no threat?"
(er, as a basic precaution and in the interests of duty-of-care perhaps??)
...are the very definition of scare mongering. I'm not trying to downplay the seriousness - any nuclear incident/accident is serious, but let's be honest: the subject matter on this issue is basically too complex for the lay person to understand.
I would rather listen to the IAEA's updates on the issue, they might just have a little more credibility than a guy who runs a blog on the upcoming global "Economic Collapse" and includes links to where you can buy gold and silver coins (& iPads?!?) on eBay!
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A lot of info out there, I think CX will have to cancel flights eventually.
Radioactive Winds chase evacuees in Japan; Hawaii threatened by Fukushima fallout
Japan's nuclear emergency prompts panic buying in Tokyo | World news | The Guardian
Radioactive Winds chase evacuees in Japan; Hawaii threatened by Fukushima fallout
Japan's nuclear emergency prompts panic buying in Tokyo | World news | The Guardian
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they have already changed the Tokyo layover pattern to turnaround pattern!
heard that lots of cabin crew has reported sick last few days for these used to be "golden flights" for them
heard that lots of cabin crew has reported sick last few days for these used to be "golden flights" for them
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Well all I can say is...I'm not going to Tokyo until it is all sorted out!
I do not care if the Dr says it is safe...no radiation is good for you!!! What is going o happen it the plant blows while you are there!
I think let Richard H go!
I do not care if the Dr says it is safe...no radiation is good for you!!! What is going o happen it the plant blows while you are there!
I think let Richard H go!
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There is more to this than meets the eye!
YouTube - Japan's Nuclear Crisis Is "Completely Out Of Control!"
Japan earthquake and tsunami: French claim full scale of nuclear disaster being hidden | Mail Online
Nuclear Plant Operator: Water in Pool Storing Spent Nuclear Fuel Rods May Be Boiling, an Ominous Sign for Release of Radioactivity | zero hedge
When All Else Fails, Change The Rules: Japan Increases Maximum "Safe" Radiation Dose Allowed For Nuclear Workers By 150% To Near-Chernobyl Levels | zero hedge
Superfrozo, with all due respect I will have to politely disagree with you. You must understand that you cannot trust the mainstream media. Reading the BBC is like reading the Beano. They will not tell you how bad it is until it's far, far too late. Why take any chance with you're life and you're health.
It seems strange, as aviation professionals one would assume we have a fairly good handle on risk, we counter potential threats every day of our flying lives, now suddenly a threat looms large on the horizon and instead of giving yourself a personal CTWO+ brief, emphasis on the + mind you, you are going to let some irresponsible international agency take responsibility for you!
If a fraction of what is being reported by alternative news sources is correct, then we have absolutely no business being anywhere near Tokyo.
YouTube - Japan's Nuclear Crisis Is "Completely Out Of Control!"
Japan earthquake and tsunami: French claim full scale of nuclear disaster being hidden | Mail Online
Nuclear Plant Operator: Water in Pool Storing Spent Nuclear Fuel Rods May Be Boiling, an Ominous Sign for Release of Radioactivity | zero hedge
When All Else Fails, Change The Rules: Japan Increases Maximum "Safe" Radiation Dose Allowed For Nuclear Workers By 150% To Near-Chernobyl Levels | zero hedge
Superfrozo, with all due respect I will have to politely disagree with you. You must understand that you cannot trust the mainstream media. Reading the BBC is like reading the Beano. They will not tell you how bad it is until it's far, far too late. Why take any chance with you're life and you're health.
It seems strange, as aviation professionals one would assume we have a fairly good handle on risk, we counter potential threats every day of our flying lives, now suddenly a threat looms large on the horizon and instead of giving yourself a personal CTWO+ brief, emphasis on the + mind you, you are going to let some irresponsible international agency take responsibility for you!
If a fraction of what is being reported by alternative news sources is correct, then we have absolutely no business being anywhere near Tokyo.
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Holy **** ladies sounds like the kind of uninformed crap that we all had to endure during SARS and the bird flu panic.
Let me guess, you are the same "guys" who refuse to push back until your gluten free meal is loaded.
You are probably copping a bigger dose going over the pole every month than any potential threat from a Tokyo turnaround as it stands right now.
Now turn off FOX news, toughen up and spare a thought for the Japanese on the ground who are dealing with this catastrophe in their usual dignified manner.
Let me guess, you are the same "guys" who refuse to push back until your gluten free meal is loaded.
You are probably copping a bigger dose going over the pole every month than any potential threat from a Tokyo turnaround as it stands right now.
Now turn off FOX news, toughen up and spare a thought for the Japanese on the ground who are dealing with this catastrophe in their usual dignified manner.
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If CX suspend operations to Tokyo and/or Japan then how are they going to afford the tea and biscuits for Friday afternoon? After all they are jacking up the prices of airfares to Japan at the moment because nobody else is flying there. I'm surprised "The Management" hasn't been on to talk about his bonus!
Mr Hunt...... I have never said we shouldn't be flying to NRT, in view of the ever changing situation with regards to the power plant, the number of people wanting to leave Tokyo ( and the ensuring pandemonium in the airport environs ) the threat of further earthquakes etc etc it would be prudent not to overnight there at this stage especially since we don't really have to whilst maintaining a full schedule. It's best to keep the crew in the Aircraft in transit.
It seems logic has prevailed and CX finally have seen the light too.
It seems logic has prevailed and CX finally have seen the light too.
I really don't think it comes down to an argument such as, "you don't have the balls to crew a flight to Tokyo".
If we knew who was telling the truth, the complete truth and even if the actual truth can be known at this stage...then we might be able to make a value judgment based on real facts.
If you live and work in Tokyo then you may not have the opportunity to leave. In that case your chances of radiation illness or other health related repercussions in the next few weeks/months, are a lot higher than just about every other person in the world. As one of the female Tokyo residents said on the news today words to the effect that "I am scared, but I am still going to work as I must face my destiny".
But, if you don't live in Tokyo, the advice of many educated and industrialized country's Governments is to get the heck out of "Dodge City".
It doesn't matter for old people like me to go to Tokyo as I am probably more likely to die of old age than from radiation related health issues.
But, for young crew with healthy balls and ovaries and still in and at the breeding age, I would suggest the risk of exposure and the financial reward for such exposure to be weighed very carefully indeed. Any damage will last their whole lifetime (and possibly their offspring).
EXEZY has given us a good link (above). Even if you don't read the words, the pictures tell a very sobering story which even the most technically inept of us can draw reasonable conclusions as to the situation of the reactors and therefore the personal risk involved in visiting Tokyo in the near future.
Japan earthquake and tsunami: French claim full scale of nuclear disaster being hidden | Mail Online
Your call of course...
If we knew who was telling the truth, the complete truth and even if the actual truth can be known at this stage...then we might be able to make a value judgment based on real facts.
If you live and work in Tokyo then you may not have the opportunity to leave. In that case your chances of radiation illness or other health related repercussions in the next few weeks/months, are a lot higher than just about every other person in the world. As one of the female Tokyo residents said on the news today words to the effect that "I am scared, but I am still going to work as I must face my destiny".
But, if you don't live in Tokyo, the advice of many educated and industrialized country's Governments is to get the heck out of "Dodge City".
It doesn't matter for old people like me to go to Tokyo as I am probably more likely to die of old age than from radiation related health issues.
But, for young crew with healthy balls and ovaries and still in and at the breeding age, I would suggest the risk of exposure and the financial reward for such exposure to be weighed very carefully indeed. Any damage will last their whole lifetime (and possibly their offspring).
EXEZY has given us a good link (above). Even if you don't read the words, the pictures tell a very sobering story which even the most technically inept of us can draw reasonable conclusions as to the situation of the reactors and therefore the personal risk involved in visiting Tokyo in the near future.
Japan earthquake and tsunami: French claim full scale of nuclear disaster being hidden | Mail Online
Your call of course...
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Michael Hunt and betbump5, it's nice to see the cx spirit is alive and well, could you kindly inform crew control of your preference to do nothing but NRT turns...saves me from going there 
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Would have absolutely no qualms about operating an aircraft into Tokyo with regards to the current situation.
As far as I can tell after sifting through all the worst case scenario and doomsday predictions on the net and ratings driven 24 hr cable news stations is that there has been no harmful radiation detected anywhere in the tokyo area.
Obviously this is a very fluid situation and vigilance is warranted but to get involved in the media hype is ridiculous.
As far as I can tell after sifting through all the worst case scenario and doomsday predictions on the net and ratings driven 24 hr cable news stations is that there has been no harmful radiation detected anywhere in the tokyo area.
Obviously this is a very fluid situation and vigilance is warranted but to get involved in the media hype is ridiculous.
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Harden the F*** UP
Jolly good show Mr. Hunt!
Some of these lady boys need to get four spoonfuls of concrete a dash of super glue 500ml of water .... mix it up .... drink it
AND HARDEN THE HELL UP!
Ohhh the center pedestal is filthy I cant work like this ... delay the flight and get the cleaners back ...the sandwiches are stale ....cry me a Yangtze River
Some of these lady boys need to get four spoonfuls of concrete a dash of super glue 500ml of water .... mix it up .... drink it
AND HARDEN THE HELL UP!
Ohhh the center pedestal is filthy I cant work like this ... delay the flight and get the cleaners back ...the sandwiches are stale ....cry me a Yangtze River
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Whilst I am fully aware of the fact that the events at Fukushima may lead to a rapid deterioration of the situation - right now there is no reason to worry in Tokyo:
Tokyo radiation levels are 10 times the normal value. Scary scary, eh?
But what does it mean in reality?
0.809 micro sieverts/hour were recorded in central Tokyo at 10.00 a.m. local time on the 15th.
Now how does that relate to other sources of radiation?
How about an hour of flight time?: Gives you about 5.5 micro sieverts
Eating a banana? Gives you 0.1 micro sieverts ...
you get my drift?
there is no reason to worry (not yet, anyways)
Tokyo radiation levels are 10 times the normal value. Scary scary, eh?
But what does it mean in reality?
0.809 micro sieverts/hour were recorded in central Tokyo at 10.00 a.m. local time on the 15th.
Now how does that relate to other sources of radiation?
How about an hour of flight time?: Gives you about 5.5 micro sieverts
Eating a banana? Gives you 0.1 micro sieverts ...
you get my drift?
there is no reason to worry (not yet, anyways)
