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Old 19th Nov 2010, 08:18
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Iceman50, keep working your G days then.
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Old 19th Nov 2010, 08:24
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Iceman50, keep working your G days then.
Exactly the reason I posted. I don't work my G days but that is of no consequence to all you loud mouthed protesters who shout away without the facts!
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Old 19th Nov 2010, 09:25
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So to play devil's advocate. Is it okay for you to get overtime but not for this person to be able to pick 25 hrs HDP, without going into overtime. So he is stealing YOUR money, but you are NOT stealing his as he has not reached 84 hours?
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Old 19th Nov 2010, 09:54
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Iceman are you serious, devils advocate? if the roster is printed with a reserve block and you go into overtime whos fault is that, we all get an equal share of reserve each calendar year, It's fair, except when people work Gs and cut you out of the system.

Yes working Gs is stealing off those on reserve who don't get called out it's simple.

If guys are so desperate to work Gs please search the roster and swap with those on reserve!!!!
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Old 20th Nov 2010, 13:18
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I think you have your date wrong. As did the guy the other night about 271?
ok, to be concise and not get the wrong guy grilled by the annoymous general public, 271 (18/11) is the date and number you input for the screw list in screw indirect, hope that fixes your problem about reporting before, during, after, above, below, left, right, center, whatever the date is.

So he is stealing YOUR money, but you are NOT stealing his as he has not reached 84 hours?
No not really, neither is the company stealing your money if they don't offer you a payrise so your salary could keep up with inflation. Nor if they decide to hire more cheap labour and make someone more expensive like iceman redundunt if they can, just a thought, don't blast me, I am a cheaper option afterall.
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Old 20th Nov 2010, 14:57
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Iceman,

Just keep toeing the company line, they'll take GOOD care of you.

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Old 21st Nov 2010, 07:47
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Box

Perhaps you should learn to read and read all posts, before you make stupid comments.

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Why do so many not get it? Ignorance, apathy and greed.
To play devils advocate again, you have no greed then wanting overtime when someone has less than 84 hrs HDP?


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What are you trying to say?
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Old 21st Nov 2010, 08:18
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Justifiable G?

Lord knows I went thru a keen phase when I joined and did some G day stuff. Thankfully, I have grown out of that!!

Anyway, surely there is justification for working a G day if you will get overtime for it yourself as well as the paltry G day payment?

The couple of times I have agreed to it (a while ago now I might add) I was already at 80+ hours and the extra long-haul work took me into the 100+ category. Is that not fair enough for guys to do that as the company has to pay a handsome premium for your extra services? Maybe some of these guys being 'outed' as lowly G day workers are in that category?
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Old 21st Nov 2010, 09:43
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CXDOG, it still means there is a guy on reserve who would go into 110+ hrs.

No matter how anyone spins it working a G day is the CHEAP option for CX and somebody is not getting as much OT as he could.
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Old 21st Nov 2010, 13:51
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I think I can summarise most of the previous posts on this thread with the following statement;-
"ANYONE WHO WORKS ON A G DAY IS A C**T & IS SHOVING A PINEAPPLE DIRECTLY UP THE BUTT OF THE ENTIRE 2,500+ PILOT GROUP INCLUDING HIMSELF."

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Old 22nd Nov 2010, 14:35
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Iceman,

I do read, quite well in fact, and your posts just aren't any good. Go work on a G-day so we don't have you detracting from our hate!!!

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Old 22nd Nov 2010, 17:43
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Iceman,

What are you trying to say?
Don't bother, you won't ever understand it, it doesn't come with a sharkfin logo. Now keep flying rubber dog s*it out of Hong Kong on your G days, since you got nothing else better to do with your life quite obviously.
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Old 22nd Nov 2010, 18:29
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Child and Box poor little boys!

As these are anonymous forums the origins of the contributions may be opposite to what may be apparent. In fact the press may use it, or the unscrupulous, or sciolists*, to elicit certain reactions.
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Old 23rd Nov 2010, 07:13
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boxjockey and cxchild labour...you obviously have nothing better to do with your lives than trawling through everyone else's realtime rosters then spouting your vitriol for hours every day on PPRune...oh what an attractive, measured and professional face of the union you put across...
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Old 23rd Nov 2010, 12:48
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Sorvad,

I don't go through anyone's real-time roster but my own, and that is only when there isn't an outstanding crew notification!! Cheers!!

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Old 27th Nov 2010, 08:59
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CX233 28th Nov. HKG-MXP

Yet another S/O AOA member working on a G day.
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Old 27th Nov 2010, 10:14
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CX233 28th Nov. HKG-MXP

Yet another S/O AOA member working on a G day.
Why the hell are they still working on G-days. It's even more disappointing seeing that it's AOA members- it's disgraceful.
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Old 27th Nov 2010, 14:27
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Sunday's two YYZ flights and evening LAX flights are all missing a F/O. Lets see how those pan out.
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Old 27th Nov 2010, 16:12
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quote " a local guy I see, same guys who want me to give up something so they can get housing"

Sydneyman...you just about sum up the selfish hypocritical attitude that prevails on this forum
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Old 27th Nov 2010, 16:51
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sorvad, no need to browse through real-time rosters, crew control does a pretty damn good job in broadcasting which flights to watch out for.


sydneyman, good on you, remained silence the whole time and jump on the local guy right away the first chance you get, that says a lot. please don't turn this into one of those expat vs. local war again, I'm sure there's a lot of expat G day callouts that could be uncovered if you really wanna make the distinction amongst the sinners. Be it expat or local, it's still wrong to screw your mate/colleague over like this.
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