SLS Payback
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SLS Payback
What an insult that Captains will be returned only 90 % of their SLS while all others receive 100 %. What in the hell good will that 10 % do the company that makes it so worth the slap in the face? It is not about the money, but the poor message it sends.
Chief Pilots should be embarrassed to look their captains in the eye. We all know they are getting 90 % plus big bonus for the sales job they did.
Just another kick in the balls.
Chief Pilots should be embarrassed to look their captains in the eye. We all know they are getting 90 % plus big bonus for the sales job they did.
Just another kick in the balls.
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All I can say is for the rebellious types in CX, it should have been 52 weeks SLS and 0% repayment.
Here's to my 10 cents a share, maybe using the above method we can squeeze it up to 20 cents - cheers Tony!
Here's to my 10 cents a share, maybe using the above method we can squeeze it up to 20 cents - cheers Tony!
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Totally agree. You captains gave them four weeks as requested. I'd be banging down the DFO's door over that one or they will have big problems getting captains to sign up next time, and there will be a next time!
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...yes, this is difficult to see it as anything other than a petty swipe at the Captains. I would love to hear a RATIONAL explanation as to why they only deserved 90%. Seems utterly small minded and lacking in class.
A very good point water check. Why 90%? Who came up with that figure and why? Why not 95%, 99%, or wait for it... why not 100%?
I will be more than happy to participate in any future SLS/ULV scheme offered by The Cathay Pacific Group......................upon full repayment of 2009 SLS.
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I will be more than happy to participate in any future SLS/ULV scheme offered by The Cathay Pacific Group......................upon full repayment of 2009 SLS.
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90% payback
Job LevelAmount of PaymentLevel A100% of the “Relevant Amount”Level B100% of the “Relevant Amount”Level C100% of the “Relevant Amount”Level D & above90% of the “Relevant Amount”
This affects lvl D and above not just captains
This affects lvl D and above not just captains
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Yes, I really feel sorry for you captains.
Earning half a billion dollars a year, getting 28 extra days off and only being charged 2.8 days salary for it. Poor you.
Compare cabin crew: work twice as hard, earn peanuts and get an extra 7 days off in the year for free. I wouldn't whine to them, you may get a little something extra in your coffee next time.
In the biggest global financial crisis for many years, you lost 2.8 days salary. Stop worrying about everybody else.
Clowns.
Earning half a billion dollars a year, getting 28 extra days off and only being charged 2.8 days salary for it. Poor you.
Compare cabin crew: work twice as hard, earn peanuts and get an extra 7 days off in the year for free. I wouldn't whine to them, you may get a little something extra in your coffee next time.
In the biggest global financial crisis for many years, you lost 2.8 days salary. Stop worrying about everybody else.
Clowns.
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Divide and conquer !!! This has always been Cathay's ploy, if you haven't figured that out by now. Look after one group and screw the other. That way we spend our time in fighting instead of dealing with them. Look back over time and this is how they have always done it. Anyhow, I get my full 3 weeks back so.......... I'm alright Jack.
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Kcw:
Don't see this as divide and conquer. We are not voting on this. We are not being told to accept the Captain's screwing over in order to get our full 100%. No I think all flight crew would agree this is wrong.
This is just stupid management. In a twisted way they may even have been trying to show that the upper management was willing to forgo some of the SLS payback.
Instead they have pissed the very crew off who do a large amount of Company ass covering by extending into discretion, working G days, answering the phone etc.
I for one think this is a bizarre way to handle your most senior crew...
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Don't see this as divide and conquer. We are not voting on this. We are not being told to accept the Captain's screwing over in order to get our full 100%. No I think all flight crew would agree this is wrong.
This is just stupid management. In a twisted way they may even have been trying to show that the upper management was willing to forgo some of the SLS payback.
Instead they have pissed the very crew off who do a large amount of Company ass covering by extending into discretion, working G days, answering the phone etc.
I for one think this is a bizarre way to handle your most senior crew...
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fO4EVA....one post eh? I suggest you crawl back in your hole. I don't recall saying I was going to mention it to the cabin crew. I was simply stating that there doesn't seem to be much sense in giving back only 90%, when all other groups received 100%. Of course, you were too frantic in registering on Pprune so you could have a go at someone, completely missing the point of the comment in the first place. In case it hasn't occurred to you, the money in question is my basic salary. I don't have to justify it to you or anyone else for that matter. As far as the 'biggest financial crisis in years'....CX declared a 4 BILLION dollar profit. I think another 10% could have been 'scraped' out...don't you? Why don't you de-register and go and join a wannabe forum, you may just qualify for that.
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Don't see this as divide and conquer. We are not voting on this.
CX divided the pilot body. Captains will be pissed, but the rest of the pilots will not go out of the way to defend them since they've gotten RA65 and everybody's upgrade was conscequently delayed.
And by shafting the capts, they save the most money.
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Fine, whatever.
Would you agree that if Level D staff got 100% sls back then they would have gained the most? Ie 4 free weeks?
How do YOU think that would look to the majority of level A-C staff?
Would you agree that if Level D staff got 100% sls back then they would have gained the most? Ie 4 free weeks?
How do YOU think that would look to the majority of level A-C staff?
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It gets worse!
Unpaid leave was offered before SLS, those who took UNPAID leave didn't have to sign up for SLS.
So guess what if you took unpaid leave you get $0 , only those who signed up for SLS get it back
beside the 90%ers 
Cabin crew are fuming as apparently a lot signed for unpaid leave to help the company out as opposed to SLS.
How many cockpit crew did the same?
"CX, striving to have the lowest morals of any company out there"
Unpaid leave was offered before SLS, those who took UNPAID leave didn't have to sign up for SLS.
So guess what if you took unpaid leave you get $0 , only those who signed up for SLS get it back
beside the 90%ers Cabin crew are fuming as apparently a lot signed for unpaid leave to help the company out as opposed to SLS.
How many cockpit crew did the same?
"CX, striving to have the lowest morals of any company out there"
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or another way:
1 extra weeks leave
2 extra weeks leave
3 extra weeks leave
3.6 extra weeks leave, lose 2.8 days pay.
Who got the best deal there??? Level C perhaps? Or Level D? Sure as hell wasn't Level A.
If all you people could pay 3 days salary for 4 weeks leave would you???? I know I sure as sh!t would.
I think it was more unfair that level D had to take more UPL in the first place....
Maybe I'm just not as negative as you.
edit: oooooo a SFO
1 extra weeks leave
2 extra weeks leave
3 extra weeks leave
3.6 extra weeks leave, lose 2.8 days pay.
Who got the best deal there??? Level C perhaps? Or Level D? Sure as hell wasn't Level A.
If all you people could pay 3 days salary for 4 weeks leave would you???? I know I sure as sh!t would.
I think it was more unfair that level D had to take more UPL in the first place....
Maybe I'm just not as negative as you.
edit: oooooo a SFO
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This is just so exciting. Thankyou Tony, you're ways of abusing the minions are wonderful. I often feel my dividends rising with every divisive word that you speak.
Nurse the screens and the kleenex at once!
Ooooooooooooh yyyyeeesssssss......
Nurse the screens and the kleenex at once!
Ooooooooooooh yyyyeeesssssss......