The Appeal
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I think thanks is due to all those who have supported the 49ers through almost 10yr of pain and anguish, and to the 49er's who stayed the course and lead the fight alone.
To the rest of you who didn't, including the AOA. Shame on you!
To the rest of you who didn't, including the AOA. Shame on you!
All the best for the 27th in the Court of Appeal chaps!
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Good luck gents! Hopefully the Hong Kong judiciary will be reluctant to rule against the findings of one of their own.
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Did anybody attend the days in court and if so how did it go.
Presume that it was the standard legal appeals system where the arguments were about points of law and the handling of the case and not too much discussion on the adduced evidence and/or introduction of new or modified evidence.
I can guess that it would be more of the standard airline management "speak", albeit through the "legal briefs", more $$$$$$ spent.
You guys are not alone in suffering from the machinations of those flying the "Mahogony Bombers".
Did the Honorable Justice(s) give any indication of when they may have a finding.
Remember the 49's, something similar may be targeted at you and your colleagues one day.
Presume that it was the standard legal appeals system where the arguments were about points of law and the handling of the case and not too much discussion on the adduced evidence and/or introduction of new or modified evidence.
I can guess that it would be more of the standard airline management "speak", albeit through the "legal briefs", more $$$$$$ spent.
You guys are not alone in suffering from the machinations of those flying the "Mahogony Bombers".
Did the Honorable Justice(s) give any indication of when they may have a finding.
Remember the 49's, something similar may be targeted at you and your colleagues one day.
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From: Britain
Clearly good chap you've neither the balls nor the brains.
But in CX you're not alone in that department...certainly surrounded by like-minded individuals.
The good news is that senior management have decided that this year a lack of testicular fortitude is to be rewarded. A pay-rise is on the way - say 2% for 92 hours and 3 pilot ULH. And you get the opportunity and indeed privilege of flying with someone who's held your career back and looks like they need to retire.
But in CX you're not alone in that department...certainly surrounded by like-minded individuals.
The good news is that senior management have decided that this year a lack of testicular fortitude is to be rewarded. A pay-rise is on the way - say 2% for 92 hours and 3 pilot ULH. And you get the opportunity and indeed privilege of flying with someone who's held your career back and looks like they need to retire.
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From: the rez
Court of Final Appeal
On Wednesday the 26th of October the Court of Final Appeal heard application by the 49ers for leave to appeal to that court. The Hon. Mr. Justices Bokhary, Chan & Ribeiro, who are all Permanent Judges of the Court of Final Appeal heard arguments from both sides and a little while later issued their decision to grant leave to appeal to the 49ers.
It is estimated that the hearing will take place in the first half of next year.
Good luck Gents. This is indeed the last lap.
It is estimated that the hearing will take place in the first half of next year.
Good luck Gents. This is indeed the last lap.
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What the f*%#???
The new CEO could put an end to this and put it behind CX and the 49ers. Why does CX keep themselves in the papers with poor labor issues??? I thought the new CEO said he did not think it would get worse. Well, it is!
Mr. Slosar, please put an end to all this nonsense and lets get on with having the best airline in the world or watch people start leaving as they no longer have faith in the management and the future of CX.
Mr. Slosar, please put an end to all this nonsense and lets get on with having the best airline in the world or watch people start leaving as they no longer have faith in the management and the future of CX.
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From: Polar Route
Saturn
...because admitting they (CX) were wrong would be worse than losing the court case. In a land where saving face is everything, it is much better to be told you were wrong and disagree than to admit to the wrongdoing one's self. Pride and power are stronger incentives than money on matters like these. It is silly to all us gweillos, whom daily accept and admit our failures, to watch an organization behave in such a nonsensical way; but to the Hong Kong Chinese whom have natural bias against us anyways, CX is playing to their prejudice in the court of public opinion. CX executives know they were wrong but will continue to play this ridiculous chess match right to the bitter end. They are unscrupulous and no monetary victory can adequately compensate the 49ers for what they endured. Let's just hope God has firm justice in store for those who perpetrated this evil deed...
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The silence is deafening
When the first application was turned down by the Court of Appeal last year, it was all over the papers, (sacked Cathay pilots lose etc. etc.) There's not a mention of the successful application last week overturning the CoA's decision in any of the press here, that I can find anyway. I wonder why that is....
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From: HKG
I'm sure Mr. Perry will have something on it in this Sunday's Morning Post, he seems to be the only one that is concerned with "covering" CX stories for non-locals that isn't directly a copy of the corporate communications drivel the company puts out, especially those weekly "updates" - seriously who writes that hogwash!