Time to scrap the Increment Scale?
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Time to scrap the Increment Scale?
It is obviously company policy to use our Incremental Pay Scales to deflect and reject any annual pay increase. Both the CE and DFO have used this argument is recent years, and we can expect it to continue into the unforseeable future.
Most of us have spent enough time in the airline industry to see the gross misunderstanding of pilots pay, company loyalty and the very nature of seniority displayed by such a policy, but to the rest of CX employees, the arguments seems logical. After all, we do get an increase every year.
The policy currently used by management underminds, and in the end makes obsolete the entire notion of a Incremental Pay Scale. What the company is saying is that you will receive your starting salary, and thereafter inflation will be countered by your incremental pay scale.
The removal of the Incremental Pay Scale would naturally be quite complex, but to implement it in Cos10 as a the "new" deal for all new joiners might be common ground. After all, every new joiner would benefit in the short term. In the long term, at least they will maintain their purchasing power.
The company will be free to set the "Captains pay", FOs pay" and SO's Pay." Thereafter, let the market rule and let the company struggle to keep their experienced crews. It might even coincide with the next upturn. Even if the new "master pay" is set to the mid-point of a 25-year payscale, over the same 25 year career your total income will be larger than if you went through the steps one-by-one.
If this is what the company wants, then this is what they should get.
Most of us have spent enough time in the airline industry to see the gross misunderstanding of pilots pay, company loyalty and the very nature of seniority displayed by such a policy, but to the rest of CX employees, the arguments seems logical. After all, we do get an increase every year.
The policy currently used by management underminds, and in the end makes obsolete the entire notion of a Incremental Pay Scale. What the company is saying is that you will receive your starting salary, and thereafter inflation will be countered by your incremental pay scale.
The removal of the Incremental Pay Scale would naturally be quite complex, but to implement it in Cos10 as a the "new" deal for all new joiners might be common ground. After all, every new joiner would benefit in the short term. In the long term, at least they will maintain their purchasing power.
The company will be free to set the "Captains pay", FOs pay" and SO's Pay." Thereafter, let the market rule and let the company struggle to keep their experienced crews. It might even coincide with the next upturn. Even if the new "master pay" is set to the mid-point of a 25-year payscale, over the same 25 year career your total income will be larger than if you went through the steps one-by-one.
If this is what the company wants, then this is what they should get.
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Incremental pay is not only being spinned as an ex-gratia salary increase form the heartbreakingly generous management, but is now also being used as a compensation for not paying the 13th month (and probably profit share too).
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Answer your own question
This airline will now have career FOs. So they could be on the final pay scale for DECADES !! So once you reach the top of the scale that is it. Then inflation will take 3-4% per year until you are making a lot less than industry standard.
SOs have the good fortune to get fired if they do not make it on to the FO pay scale.
Nice huh !
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SOs have the good fortune to get fired if they do not make it on to the FO pay scale.
Nice huh !
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SOs have the good fortune to get fired if they do not make it on to the FO pay scale.
But the SO scale only goes to 4, and quite a few of them are about to max it out, or have already.
As you said, every new year, the payscale looses a few percent on account of inflation. Every new joiner is faring a bit worse than the guy who joined just before, and any though of an adjustement to the payscale is but a distant dream to the most optimistic of us.
All we get is a percent or two every year + the increment for those who haven't maxed the scale yet, which doesn't even compensate for the increasing cost of living. (Let's no even talk about the all but forgotten 13th month).
Incremental payscale should be kept as it is a reward for your years of commitments to the airline, but there should be more awareness of the fact that increments aren't there to compensate for inflation and aren't generous 'salary increases', as management would have us believe.
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It is then, by their own logic, expected that any CX staff (apart from senior CC and pilots that is) who received any form of promotion, salary increase or otherwise was rewarded during 2009 by the company will not be in receipt of the 1.8% either?
A swire prince moving up in the world, a crew controller becoming a superviser or a securtiy guard gaining another stripe surely has been given a "step" on the career latter just like us?
Oh, what a charade it all is.
A swire prince moving up in the world, a crew controller becoming a superviser or a securtiy guard gaining another stripe surely has been given a "step" on the career latter just like us?
Oh, what a charade it all is.
