Message for the KA boys
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Message for the KA boys
"Bottom of the list back dated to 2006 or nothing"
What was unacceptable back in 2006 is now acceptable??
"Tony said Dragonair will be the leading brand in China"
Action speaks louder then words! Those B777 are looking really good in Pudong, especially when parked next to an A320.
A quote back in late 2007 by you ex GMO "We will retain our B744 freighters, in fact the forth one will be arriving next week"
Where have all the B744s gone?
For your info,
1. We will have the first say on what is acceptable and what is not. Not you!
2. If and when it suits us, we will offer you exactly what we offered your freighter colleagues. We are here to make money, and so are you. Want the job or not??
3. KA has a significant number of A330 leases expiring in 2010. Despite our promises last year, we now have our reservations in deploying those 2 new A330s with KA.
The fact is we are discimating KA, have you not work that out already??
The agreement with CNAC to keep KA as principle airline up to 2012 is fast approaching it's expiry date.
What was unacceptable back in 2006 is now acceptable??
"Tony said Dragonair will be the leading brand in China"
Action speaks louder then words! Those B777 are looking really good in Pudong, especially when parked next to an A320.
A quote back in late 2007 by you ex GMO "We will retain our B744 freighters, in fact the forth one will be arriving next week"
Where have all the B744s gone?
For your info,
1. We will have the first say on what is acceptable and what is not. Not you!
2. If and when it suits us, we will offer you exactly what we offered your freighter colleagues. We are here to make money, and so are you. Want the job or not??
3. KA has a significant number of A330 leases expiring in 2010. Despite our promises last year, we now have our reservations in deploying those 2 new A330s with KA.
The fact is we are discimating KA, have you not work that out already??
The agreement with CNAC to keep KA as principle airline up to 2012 is fast approaching it's expiry date.
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And for the above reasons, integration will be a distant memory.
Wake up and and realise that the Cathay Pacific group will have to think long and hard about the future direction and costs.
Wake up and and realise that the Cathay Pacific group will have to think long and hard about the future direction and costs.
Last edited by KABOY; 11th August 2009 at 04:53.
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Action speaks louder then words! Those B777 are looking really good in Pudong, especially when parked next to an A320.
Looks as though an AOA stooge is using pprune as an attempt to bully a position of strength in integration talks.
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intergrationmanager, the only decimation going on is by you and to the English language! "The fact is we are discimating KA, have you not work that out already??"
If you ignore the very small minority in KA with expectations of an unrealistic outcome you will realise a 'fair' conclusion is all that is sought. Are you really so arrogant as to presume a QF/Jetstar scenario can't be repeated? We would like to be united with you, not battling with you.
If you ignore the very small minority in KA with expectations of an unrealistic outcome you will realise a 'fair' conclusion is all that is sought. Are you really so arrogant as to presume a QF/Jetstar scenario can't be repeated? We would like to be united with you, not battling with you.
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Have A Nice Day BILLY SEX CRIME
1) now is 'THE' time not now is a time.
2) seek therapy 'FOR' the abuses not seek therapy from the abuses
3) high school boarder not high school border
4) comma after 'personality' and before 'respect'
5) full stop after 'goal' and begin 'You'll' with a capital Y.In fact it reads better if you use the proper "You will "form rather than abbrevriate it
6) It is preferable to use the positive 'success WILL bring you' rather than your chosen phrase 'success could bring you'.
7)Airline is not 'who' as it is not a person. Use the phrase 'which was' when referring to airlines
8)employees does not have an ' It is employees not employee's
9) CEO is sufficient. No need to use the slang CEO guy as well. It irritates and distracts the reader from the point you are attempting to make
10) seditive is better than using the old fashioned valium which is simply one of a number of now largely discredited seditives.The word betrays either your antiquity or unfamiliarity with the language.
11) comma after valium
here ends the grammar and punctuation lesson
But your user name STINKS
Who in today's world of paedophelia male and female sexual abuse and human trafficking would want want to be called BILLY SEX CRIME ?????
2) seek therapy 'FOR' the abuses not seek therapy from the abuses
3) high school boarder not high school border
4) comma after 'personality' and before 'respect'
5) full stop after 'goal' and begin 'You'll' with a capital Y.In fact it reads better if you use the proper "You will "form rather than abbrevriate it
6) It is preferable to use the positive 'success WILL bring you' rather than your chosen phrase 'success could bring you'.
7)Airline is not 'who' as it is not a person. Use the phrase 'which was' when referring to airlines
8)employees does not have an ' It is employees not employee's
9) CEO is sufficient. No need to use the slang CEO guy as well. It irritates and distracts the reader from the point you are attempting to make
10) seditive is better than using the old fashioned valium which is simply one of a number of now largely discredited seditives.The word betrays either your antiquity or unfamiliarity with the language.
11) comma after valium
here ends the grammar and punctuation lesson
But your user name STINKS
Who in today's world of paedophelia male and female sexual abuse and human trafficking would want want to be called BILLY SEX CRIME ?????
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From: HK- A little bit of industrial China in every breath you take.
So you paid all that money to buy KA and decimate it? Quite brilliant. That certainly exudes a unique level of business accumen! To say you exist despite your very best efforts is an understatement. It is certainly in the companies best interest to have us seperate. Your words make that the path of least resistance.
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'Integrationmanager' is just a poor copy of the brilliant 'The Management' who, through the use of irony, produced insightful and thought-provoking posts as a 'devil's advocate'. Integrationmanager tries but fails dismally.
I would welcome an integration with the KA boys.
Mr Q, it's 'sedative'.
I would welcome an integration with the KA boys.
Mr Q, it's 'sedative'.
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From: No Fixed Abode
8)employees does not have an ' It is employees not employee's
Who in today's world of paedophelia male and female sexual abuse and human trafficking would want want to be called BILLY SEX CRIME ?????
Sorry Billy, I hope you take it in jest as was my intention.
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From: hong kong
congratulations Billy
definite improvement billy *** crime
your spelling has improved and there is even a suggestion of punctuation in your last post
Congratulations !!!!!!!!!!!
but keep to the thread please from now on !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
your spelling has improved and there is even a suggestion of punctuation in your last post
Congratulations !!!!!!!!!!!
but keep to the thread please from now on !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Do you think Billy is a reamed out victim of the British public school system himself? In denial and all that.
If he has been through the system, then the chances are high IMHO. Or has the system been through him?
If he has been through the system, then the chances are high IMHO. Or has the system been through him?
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So you paid all that money to buy KA and decimate it? Quite brilliant. That certainly exudes a unique level of business accumen! To say you exist despite your very best efforts is an understatement. It is certainly in the companies best interest to have us seperate. Your words make that the path of least resistance.
You ARE of course talking about a management that hedged fuel at the peak price, what did you expect from them 
Billy, I am afraid I have to disagree most vehemently...............
Go to Neptunes
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Time to get another job.
KA is screwed.
Been a great place to work but now these CX numpty's have showed their hand it is over.
All the freighters - gone
2 A330's - gone
9 A330 comming off lease in the next 2 years will also go (CX management have said that it is "...not out of the question.")
CX now not even hiding the fact that they are taking our flights ie from Flight dispatch "KAxxx now operated by CX"
...and redundancies will follow
It will be a long slow death so we have some time but best to start the exit strategy now.
Damn shame!!
KA is screwed.
Been a great place to work but now these CX numpty's have showed their hand it is over.
All the freighters - gone
2 A330's - gone
9 A330 comming off lease in the next 2 years will also go (CX management have said that it is "...not out of the question.")
CX now not even hiding the fact that they are taking our flights ie from Flight dispatch "KAxxx now operated by CX"
...and redundancies will follow
It will be a long slow death so we have some time but best to start the exit strategy now.
Damn shame!!
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By the same token though, there are flights KA have picked up off Cathay. The CX912/913 Manila split is now only flown by CX twice a week and now 5x a week by KA. You guys picked up Fukuoka off us as well, although that was dropped because of the economy.
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Manilla is not being flown by a KA 330 is it? Or Fuk?
They only reason KA is doing them is the A320 is the right size for
the load. They can get a high yield from it.
Once loads starting toppping out, and a A330 is required, I have no doubt
CX will reclaim the route.
They only reason KA is doing them is the A320 is the right size for
the load. They can get a high yield from it.
Once loads starting toppping out, and a A330 is required, I have no doubt
CX will reclaim the route.
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One of our chaps got a call from Screw Control on his way to work:
a couple of days ago
" Hello Captain XXX, you're flight now being operated by Cathay "
Pack of
s
Once the pilot market turns around, and it will, watch the exodus
a couple of days ago
" Hello Captain XXX, you're flight now being operated by Cathay "
Pack of
sOnce the pilot market turns around, and it will, watch the exodus