ISM issues
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From: Fragrent Harbour
ACMS... LOL, good opinion on based T/O CC! I agree 
Here's my anonymous post (because I really don't like ratting out my mates, but there ARE some good pilot-crew relationships out there in CX world). Quite the opposite to posts saying CX CC don't know how to have a good time.
Rumour has it one of the T/O hosties who most always has way too much to drink, had a night in the room of one of the pilots... both married, all with kids & apparently nothing happened. Yeah!
GO CX TEAM.
It's happening, just discretely.
Here's my anonymous post (because I really don't like ratting out my mates, but there ARE some good pilot-crew relationships out there in CX world). Quite the opposite to posts saying CX CC don't know how to have a good time.
Rumour has it one of the T/O hosties who most always has way too much to drink, had a night in the room of one of the pilots... both married, all with kids & apparently nothing happened. Yeah!
GO CX TEAM.
It's happening, just discretely.
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From: hong kong
One reason the cabin crew don't socialize with us is because of all the gossip.
Grow up lads....what happens on the road, stays on the road.
As soon as the YTO based crew hear of this thread, there will be no more parties.
Thanks.
Grow up lads....what happens on the road, stays on the road.
As soon as the YTO based crew hear of this thread, there will be no more parties.
Thanks.
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From: Europe Mainly
Crickey. Everyone's heard about that, it's not news.
And for all of you who say the CC are just out for money or a passport - you're wrong! This girlee, in particular, loves having a great time with the pilots.... socially & a bit more sometimes. She has a Cdn. passport, lives in a wealthy neighbourhood, successful Asian husband & children. Just loves chasing the white pilot.
So, there. "It's morning Captain" does happen at Cathay, but the culturally sensitive pilots just stay tight-lipped about it. Also supported by a quick survey around where most pilots marry F/A's their second time around. There's some great girls working for Cathay. And some great crew relations, too bad the nasty ISM's ruin it for the majority.
"Rumours" & this thread ruining CC partying with pilots - rubbish! It may even encourage some. As the expression goes "if you can't take the heat, stop riding the pilot".
And for all of you who say the CC are just out for money or a passport - you're wrong! This girlee, in particular, loves having a great time with the pilots.... socially & a bit more sometimes. She has a Cdn. passport, lives in a wealthy neighbourhood, successful Asian husband & children. Just loves chasing the white pilot.
So, there. "It's morning Captain" does happen at Cathay, but the culturally sensitive pilots just stay tight-lipped about it. Also supported by a quick survey around where most pilots marry F/A's their second time around. There's some great girls working for Cathay. And some great crew relations, too bad the nasty ISM's ruin it for the majority.
"Rumours" & this thread ruining CC partying with pilots - rubbish! It may even encourage some. As the expression goes "if you can't take the heat, stop riding the pilot".
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I'm cranky old CX guy, who's been around, Sisyphos. And no I don't want to delete that post. It's sayin' it like it is mate, a bit crude, yes.
I've seen the hard-core ISM's who shun the CC for talking to pilots, times are changing. That girliee in question is an ISM - "JC". Knew her when she was moving up the ranks in her red coat. She's a sickening head case.
Really, it's a sport for her to "reel" in and chase the white guys at the top of the CX food chain.
Point is, CX is promoting the "fun" girls now, they still have to snitch on all of their colleagues along the way too. IMHO, JC is a legal disaster waiting to happen. She passes out smashed in bars, hotel lobbies, cabs, pilot's beds. It's only a matter of time until she implicates CX when something happens to her.
I don't cheat on my wife and family.
I think ISM's need to be positive leaders on the plane, and ideally have the ability to socialize across all the ranks.
Should ISM's get smashed & pass out, then find themselves in a private place with one guy? Should ISMs get smashed & pass out in public places while on a layover alone? IMHO, NO Bloody WAY.
Should JC be demoted? Should the cranky ISM be demoted from the first posting in this thread? YES! They're both unprofessional and do nothing for the airline profession or crew relations.
I may put pen to paper and write her up. Enough.
Signed,
Cranky Old Guy (who'll be retired flying bush planes with no politics for a hobby, very soon)
I've seen the hard-core ISM's who shun the CC for talking to pilots, times are changing. That girliee in question is an ISM - "JC". Knew her when she was moving up the ranks in her red coat. She's a sickening head case.
Really, it's a sport for her to "reel" in and chase the white guys at the top of the CX food chain.
Point is, CX is promoting the "fun" girls now, they still have to snitch on all of their colleagues along the way too. IMHO, JC is a legal disaster waiting to happen. She passes out smashed in bars, hotel lobbies, cabs, pilot's beds. It's only a matter of time until she implicates CX when something happens to her.
I don't cheat on my wife and family.
I think ISM's need to be positive leaders on the plane, and ideally have the ability to socialize across all the ranks.
Should ISM's get smashed & pass out, then find themselves in a private place with one guy? Should ISMs get smashed & pass out in public places while on a layover alone? IMHO, NO Bloody WAY.
Should JC be demoted? Should the cranky ISM be demoted from the first posting in this thread? YES! They're both unprofessional and do nothing for the airline profession or crew relations.
I may put pen to paper and write her up. Enough.
Signed,
Cranky Old Guy (who'll be retired flying bush planes with no politics for a hobby, very soon)
Last edited by 414; 17th April 2009 at 15:32.
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Ok the touch paper has been lit.
Keep in mind the majority of us just wanna to do our jobs to the best of our abilities and not just go along for the ride [pun intended].
But I notice there are some who just won't take 'no' for an answer.
Btw way ofcourse in a informal, off duty situation the 2 Bcs are going to respond that way.
Suggestion: ask them yourself next time en-route in the bus -problem solved.
''When you visit the flight deck you get to see when we make Cabin calls etc'' Sori still does not compute!
Keep in mind the majority of us just wanna to do our jobs to the best of our abilities and not just go along for the ride [pun intended].
But I notice there are some who just won't take 'no' for an answer.
Btw way ofcourse in a informal, off duty situation the 2 Bcs are going to respond that way.
Suggestion: ask them yourself next time en-route in the bus -problem solved.
''When you visit the flight deck you get to see when we make Cabin calls etc'' Sori still does not compute!
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From: Fragrent Harbour
Dear 414. You are cranky.
No need to state the obvious mate! She's building her own reputation, in good time. So, slow down.
Is she screwing single pilots? Who cares.
Does she go after the married pilots that have been away from their wifey too long, are smashed, maybe having a low point with their dame, and are fun guys? Well, that's their business. It takes 2 and she just knows who's door to knock on to increase her scoring odds.
Pilots have a hard lifestyle on the road, and what happens there, really should stay there.
Sounds like she's bringing CC & pilots together to socialize - that's gotta be helping crew relations?!
No need to state the obvious mate! She's building her own reputation, in good time. So, slow down.
Is she screwing single pilots? Who cares.
Does she go after the married pilots that have been away from their wifey too long, are smashed, maybe having a low point with their dame, and are fun guys? Well, that's their business. It takes 2 and she just knows who's door to knock on to increase her scoring odds.
Pilots have a hard lifestyle on the road, and what happens there, really should stay there.
Sounds like she's bringing CC & pilots together to socialize - that's gotta be helping crew relations?!
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From: can't remember, I'm too tired
Another way of thinking about this
well this thread is really dissappearing down the spiral of those spoiling for a fight.
You all really need to step back a little.
Both sides could really learn something from watching the others workplace. but just like many other workplaces most can't see that.
But you're missing the point again.
You are flaming a fight between the workers again. turn your anger and thinking to what the management are up to. we need each other and need to stop bitching to mummy (the company), otherwise when we finishing our silly little fight you'll discover that mummy took our pocket money and chocolate away while we were fighting with each other.
You all really need to step back a little.
Both sides could really learn something from watching the others workplace. but just like many other workplaces most can't see that.
But you're missing the point again.
You are flaming a fight between the workers again. turn your anger and thinking to what the management are up to. we need each other and need to stop bitching to mummy (the company), otherwise when we finishing our silly little fight you'll discover that mummy took our pocket money and chocolate away while we were fighting with each other.
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From: Dorset
Grassing the poor girl up isn't going to help anyone. You all realise she is probably alcohol dependant. She probably beats herself up every morning when she wakes up in some guys bed - with a stonking hangover. And she sounds like fun. Why not take her under your wings, so to speak, look out for her, guide her away from one last martini for the road.
Look after each other ladies and gentlemen. The in-fighting gets you nowhere.
Look after each other ladies and gentlemen. The in-fighting gets you nowhere.
The Reverend
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Why not take her under your wings, so to speak, look out for her, guide her away from one last martini for the road.
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From: Singapore
Gee some hung up contributions.
I had a great night in Shanghai recently. Myself and the Senior Purser spent the evening together. A bottle of champagne in the bath, a super man pill for me and a few hours later in-room dining. Very discrete of course. It is such a buzz to wake up with one of the crew. Watch them get ready for work. The Hong Kong ladies take an hour to shower and do their make up and the company provides a room with glass petitions into the bathroom.
Living the dream !
I had a great night in Shanghai recently. Myself and the Senior Purser spent the evening together. A bottle of champagne in the bath, a super man pill for me and a few hours later in-room dining. Very discrete of course. It is such a buzz to wake up with one of the crew. Watch them get ready for work. The Hong Kong ladies take an hour to shower and do their make up and the company provides a room with glass petitions into the bathroom.
Living the dream !
ISM issues
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From: Hong Kong
The other day over the PA during taxi the ISM yapping ''and please take all you belongings with you otherwise the crew will distribute among themselves''
Is this type of adhoc prose allowed?
The cabin reacted with derision.As whole flight she was yapping over the PA too much.
Is this type of adhoc prose allowed?
The cabin reacted with derision.As whole flight she was yapping over the PA too much.
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From: Disneyland - with Mickey Mouse
To many Catahy pilots with no f@cking balls.. Its so easy to bi@tch and morn on the FD and give the AoA !!!! and everybody else !!!! but not standing up and do something about it is symptomnomious (f@cked up spelling) with way to many of you.. Sad, sad, sad.but there you go, thats what you get.. The CX cabin crew have got the the pants on boyz
