Classic Chief Pilot latest update
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Classic Chief Pilot latest update
Very useful and incisive directive from the CP/FTM team on the Classic Fleet. Worried about 'certain crew members' who demonstrate an inability to work with either 'asymmetric flight and/or SOP's' (or - I assume - both) and in order to make sure they don't have an 'incident' in the final days, the Classic FTM is devising a monthly simulator check - sorry - training session so that pilots can 'hone their skills' prior to conversion.
Flight Engineers 'may be distracted' after hearing that their careers are over too.
Inspired stuff.............................
Flight Engineers 'may be distracted' after hearing that their careers are over too.
Inspired stuff.............................
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typical cx man-(mis)management - they can't understand that about 80 families have no idea what the future holds for them and that the engineers are very p#&&ed off- no stress if course - so lets see how much we can stress them out in the sim. maybe we can cull a few pilots then we won't have to retrain them. hang in there chaps and don't let it get to you.
eventually, the end of july will roll around and someone will be forced to make a decision. can't have all those pilots being paid for nothing - well I suppose there is always "voluntary" unpaid leave for a year or two. who could have guessed that these thirsty old dinosaurs would go in a severe market crash. certainly not our "managers". now there is a staggering concept for you - actual management!
2 weeks since the announcement and not a single word to anyone about a plan of action or fate of any on the crew members. anyone surprised?
eventually, the end of july will roll around and someone will be forced to make a decision. can't have all those pilots being paid for nothing - well I suppose there is always "voluntary" unpaid leave for a year or two. who could have guessed that these thirsty old dinosaurs would go in a severe market crash. certainly not our "managers". now there is a staggering concept for you - actual management!
2 weeks since the announcement and not a single word to anyone about a plan of action or fate of any on the crew members. anyone surprised?
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So what's really going on here? Is there a sudden and real lapse in the ability and professionalism of CX Classic crews? Or do they remain the high calibre aviators we know them to be? Is this fleet (and its office) reflective of the training/checking regime in the other fleets...or is it out of kilter?
Mr B Boeing designed (and achieved multinational certification of) the 747-200 to be flown competently by an average crew under all realistically foreseeable normal and non-normal situations. Monthly sim checks are not really aligned with this design intent. Perhaps there is another agenda. One thing is for certain: increasing stress levels of crews unnecessarily is no positive contribution to flight safety.
TIME TO MODERNISE???
Mr B Boeing designed (and achieved multinational certification of) the 747-200 to be flown competently by an average crew under all realistically foreseeable normal and non-normal situations. Monthly sim checks are not really aligned with this design intent. Perhaps there is another agenda. One thing is for certain: increasing stress levels of crews unnecessarily is no positive contribution to flight safety.
TIME TO MODERNISE???
Classic Chief Pilot latest update
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Very useful and incisive directive from the CP/FTM team on the Classic Fleet. Worried about 'certain crew members' who demonstrate an inability to work with either 'asymmetric flight and/or SOP's' (or - I assume - both) and in order to make sure they don't have an 'incident' in the final days, the Classic FTM is devising a monthly simulator check - sorry - training session so that pilots can 'hone their skills' prior to conversion.
Flight Engineers 'may be distracted' after hearing that their careers are over too.
Inspired stuff.............................
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Very useful and incisive directive from the CP/FTM team on the Classic Fleet. Worried about 'certain crew members' who demonstrate an inability to work with either 'asymmetric flight and/or SOP's' (or - I assume - both) and in order to make sure they don't have an 'incident' in the final days, the Classic FTM is devising a monthly simulator check - sorry - training session so that pilots can 'hone their skills' prior to conversion.
Flight Engineers 'may be distracted' after hearing that their careers are over too.
Inspired stuff.............................
What? A direct admission by the Chief Pilot of incompetance in his own fleet? Where do you guys get these things from! He can't have said that...the CAD would trample him and remove the Company's AOC until such time that the Chief Pilot was assured that his Fleet crew were again competent?
Surely he can't be that that much of a ********?
"Illegittimi non carborundum!", chaps - and chapess.
You know the drill - OIC etc
p.s. Yes, I know it isn't Latin. It was a saying without a REAL application until CX checking came along. (usual disclaimers to the good guys)
You know the drill - OIC etc
p.s. Yes, I know it isn't Latin. It was a saying without a REAL application until CX checking came along. (usual disclaimers to the good guys)
Jagman,
Your heralded arrival from the glass was one not to miss, elbows perched on the bar and proclaiming to all how you were going to "show us how it is done".
You then proceeded to add to your enviable record with displays of marginal performance culminating in sim repeats, and now you have the temerity to critisize the one person responsible for keeping you on the payroll.
One could be forgiven for assuming the extra sims were designed with you in mind.
Your heralded arrival from the glass was one not to miss, elbows perched on the bar and proclaiming to all how you were going to "show us how it is done".
You then proceeded to add to your enviable record with displays of marginal performance culminating in sim repeats, and now you have the temerity to critisize the one person responsible for keeping you on the payroll.
One could be forgiven for assuming the extra sims were designed with you in mind.
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I don't know how you guys at CX all stay sane, with all this B/S flying around and I think someone needs professional help. Probably OK for the ex military types there, as they are used to it with no quick way out. If they tried these stunts with me I would be long gone.
If this is what life has become at CX, then being "let go" would be a blessing. Has it always been this bad?
If this is what life has become at CX, then being "let go" would be a blessing. Has it always been this bad?
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Rice man. Not sure who you think I am but I didn't come 'from the glass' as you say - I've been on it for 17 years! The person you describe sounds like he needs extra sims, but that should have been done ages ago - not within a whisper of the Fleet's demise.
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Extra Sims
Cummon Guys, so they throw a few extra sims our way - so what, lets just take it in our stride, be professional as we always have been and get on with it with a grin. After all most of us have at some time or other been f#%&d around by EXPERTS, as for this little, lot well 
