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Heard an S/O was sacked last week upon arrival from EUR.. Someone said the chief (ism) reported him whilst on his layover for misconduct with cabin purser (yelling and verbal abuse) over a crew meal?
Great move mate! Over a crew meal?
I've had my share of bad curry fishes, but isn't this overboard?
Great move mate! Over a crew meal?
I've had my share of bad curry fishes, but isn't this overboard?
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Not quite argument with ISM, buy maybe this.
Aussie pilot burgers up after binge. October 18, 2008 SMH
An Australian pilot with the Hong Kong airline Cathay Pacific has been fined in court and faces disciplinary action after being convicted of stealing at McDonald's on a drunken night out.
Nicholas R., 31, was fined at a court hearing yesterday for taking a card-reading machine out of a Hong Kong branch of McDonald's in February.
The theft was captured on closed-circuit television cameras.
R., who is training to be a first officer with the airline, was with two friends at the time and told the court he took the machine after drinking heavily.
He pleaded guilty to theft and was fined 3000 Hong Kong dollars ($A557) and ordered to pay McDonald's 3000 Hong Kong dollars in compensation for the machine.
The card-reading machine is used by customers to pay for meals with Octopus accumulated value cards, widely used to pay for public transportation and small purchases in Hong Kong.
A letter from a senior Cathay Pacific captain detailing R. professionalism was read to the court, and Magistrate Garry Tallentire said he hoped the incident would not affect his career.
Aussie pilot burgers up after binge. October 18, 2008 SMH
An Australian pilot with the Hong Kong airline Cathay Pacific has been fined in court and faces disciplinary action after being convicted of stealing at McDonald's on a drunken night out.
Nicholas R., 31, was fined at a court hearing yesterday for taking a card-reading machine out of a Hong Kong branch of McDonald's in February.
The theft was captured on closed-circuit television cameras.
R., who is training to be a first officer with the airline, was with two friends at the time and told the court he took the machine after drinking heavily.
He pleaded guilty to theft and was fined 3000 Hong Kong dollars ($A557) and ordered to pay McDonald's 3000 Hong Kong dollars in compensation for the machine.
The card-reading machine is used by customers to pay for meals with Octopus accumulated value cards, widely used to pay for public transportation and small purchases in Hong Kong.
A letter from a senior Cathay Pacific captain detailing R. professionalism was read to the court, and Magistrate Garry Tallentire said he hoped the incident would not affect his career.
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Caught stealing gives you a criminal record in Australia
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Rediculous... everyone has had moments like this. And if you havent..then you've had other moments of poor behavior in some other case. Maybe your a jerk and you treated your ex wife poorly..maybe you got mad at the guy who cut you off by mistake... etc etc. This blokes behaviour was out of line..but was he sorry for it? Is he a good guy generally?? Everyone deserves a second chance. If he gets sacked that that just proves the poor quality of people that Cathay management has become. And shame on anyone that persecutes this individual without first looking at yourself. Are you really innocent in all your lifes behavior??
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I don't understand why we on this forum pussyfoot around and are the last to name names when all is already in the public domain.
It seems to me that there may have been exasperating circumstances in this case and he merely gave vent to his feelings.
.... oohhh in our money economy these machines are taboo, tabu, tapu!
We need more pilots like this who when it is reasonable can step outside the box.
But we have to train our pilots so that they can make action like this without having to drink beers first.
"Drunken pilot stole Octopus machine
Cathay flyer fined for McDonald's stunt "
Loretta Fong and Simon Parry
Oct 18, 2008
An Australian Cathay Pacific (SEHK: 0293) pilot who stole an Octopus card machine from a McDonald's restaurant while drunk was fined HK$3,000 yesterday.
Nicholas Reymond, 31, pleaded guilty to one count of theft in Eastern Court before Principal Magistrate Garry Tallentire. He was also ordered to pay the fast-food chain HK$3,000 in compensation.
The prosecutor told the court that the manager at the branch of McDonald's in Castle Road, Central, discovered the machine was missing from a cashier counter on the morning of February 3.
When he checked closed-circuit television footage, the images showed Reymond, who was with two other people, disconnecting the machine. He then used his Octopus card to buy food at another counter, the court heard.
The prosecutor said police were able to trace Reymond through his Octopus card. He walked into a police station on June 26 but denied any wrongdoing under caution.
However, the court heard that Reymond turned himself in again on July 15. This time he admitted under caution that he had taken the machine.
Reymond made a second caution statement on August 25, during which he refused to identify his two friends and said they had nothing to do with the theft.
The prosecutor added that if anyone connected the stolen Octopus machine to a computer with Octopus software, it could be used to add value to any Octopus card, up to a maximum of HK$20,000.
However, there was no evidence to show that Reymond had used the machine to add value to any Octopus card, the court was told.
In mitigation, the court was told that Reymond, who has been flying since 1999, was receiving first-officer training. His lawyer said he was loyal and mature, and that he had committed the offence after drinking heavily.
A letter written by a senior Cathay captain detailing the pilot's professionalism was submitted to the court.
His lawyer asked the magistrate to consider his client's career and treat him leniently, adding that he had not committed the offence for personal gain.
In sentencing, Mr Tallentire said the crime had arisen out of stupidity and that it was a serious offence. He said the defendant, being a responsible person, should not have committed such wrongdoing. He hoped the incident would not affect his career and that his company would give him another chance.
A Cathay Pacific spokeswoman said they would conduct an investigation into the incident.
She said the company had no set policy in handling such cases and that they would look at the details, circumstances and severity of the incident, and review it on its merits.
Octopus Card Limited declined to comment.
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It seems to me that there may have been exasperating circumstances in this case and he merely gave vent to his feelings.
.... oohhh in our money economy these machines are taboo, tabu, tapu!
We need more pilots like this who when it is reasonable can step outside the box.
But we have to train our pilots so that they can make action like this without having to drink beers first.
"Drunken pilot stole Octopus machine
Cathay flyer fined for McDonald's stunt "
Loretta Fong and Simon Parry
Oct 18, 2008
An Australian Cathay Pacific (SEHK: 0293) pilot who stole an Octopus card machine from a McDonald's restaurant while drunk was fined HK$3,000 yesterday.
Nicholas Reymond, 31, pleaded guilty to one count of theft in Eastern Court before Principal Magistrate Garry Tallentire. He was also ordered to pay the fast-food chain HK$3,000 in compensation.
The prosecutor told the court that the manager at the branch of McDonald's in Castle Road, Central, discovered the machine was missing from a cashier counter on the morning of February 3.
When he checked closed-circuit television footage, the images showed Reymond, who was with two other people, disconnecting the machine. He then used his Octopus card to buy food at another counter, the court heard.
The prosecutor said police were able to trace Reymond through his Octopus card. He walked into a police station on June 26 but denied any wrongdoing under caution.
However, the court heard that Reymond turned himself in again on July 15. This time he admitted under caution that he had taken the machine.
Reymond made a second caution statement on August 25, during which he refused to identify his two friends and said they had nothing to do with the theft.
The prosecutor added that if anyone connected the stolen Octopus machine to a computer with Octopus software, it could be used to add value to any Octopus card, up to a maximum of HK$20,000.
However, there was no evidence to show that Reymond had used the machine to add value to any Octopus card, the court was told.
In mitigation, the court was told that Reymond, who has been flying since 1999, was receiving first-officer training. His lawyer said he was loyal and mature, and that he had committed the offence after drinking heavily.
A letter written by a senior Cathay captain detailing the pilot's professionalism was submitted to the court.
His lawyer asked the magistrate to consider his client's career and treat him leniently, adding that he had not committed the offence for personal gain.
In sentencing, Mr Tallentire said the crime had arisen out of stupidity and that it was a serious offence. He said the defendant, being a responsible person, should not have committed such wrongdoing. He hoped the incident would not affect his career and that his company would give him another chance.
A Cathay Pacific spokeswoman said they would conduct an investigation into the incident.
She said the company had no set policy in handling such cases and that they would look at the details, circumstances and severity of the incident, and review it on its merits.
Octopus Card Limited declined to comment.
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Character assassination
Hope the pious posters naming the hapless CX driver who went a bit over the top feel great after spreading his name worldwide on this forum. I suspect the story in the SCMP would not have made it offshore from HK and therefore would have been restricted in circulation. Good one dobbers! I would not expect you to be brave enough to use your own names on your posts.
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I suspect the story in the SCMP would not have made it offshore from HK and therefore would have been restricted in circulation.
Sydney Morning Herald - "Aussie pilot burgers up after binge"
Brisbane Times - "Australian pilot fined for stealing at Hong Kong McDonald's"
SBS World news - "Aussie pilot fined in court for stealing"
The Age and several other world news web sites have the story.
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are you saying there is no record of a conviction for stealing in Aus?
Would I be right abc1 that you are a tee totaller?
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Pity his two mates, that he has so "bravely" protected did not protect him from himself on the night in question!!
His behaviour was and is not acceptable, being drunk is not an excuse!
His behaviour was and is not acceptable, being drunk is not an excuse!
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Have to laugh at all this.
It was bad enough when two CX crew fell in the drink behind the Truck in NRT some years ago, having a quick p** (very clearly had far too many) then operated out rather early the next morning, they didn't make complete fools of themselves as this nitwit apparently did.
Thirty days in the slammer would have been about right.
Sacked?
No, just demoted....cabin steward might be appropriate.
It was bad enough when two CX crew fell in the drink behind the Truck in NRT some years ago, having a quick p** (very clearly had far too many) then operated out rather early the next morning, they didn't make complete fools of themselves as this nitwit apparently did.
Thirty days in the slammer would have been about right.
Sacked?
No, just demoted....cabin steward might be appropriate.
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No, just demoted....cabin steward might be appropriate.
You are starting to sound like a seriously cracked vintage 78 record.
Give it a rest and go and practice circuits on your zimmer frame eh?
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Yeah gotta laugh as well....
Another one joins the ranks of famous CX alcoholics being caught doing stoopid ****.... well, at least this time it wasn't at the hands of Nepalese Bouncers from Wan Chai............
Another one joins the ranks of famous CX alcoholics being caught doing stoopid ****.... well, at least this time it wasn't at the hands of Nepalese Bouncers from Wan Chai............
