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Old 15th Sep 2008, 07:59
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I'm still saying nothing....................but I'm here though
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Old 20th Sep 2008, 04:49
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Hey Canuckster

The aoa kept us from going bankrupt, thats what they did!

Just join, dont be cheap, stop being part of the problem.

We cant get anywhere on our own.

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Old 23rd Sep 2008, 23:53
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So our Union meets with the company about Staff Travel being cancelled during the last Typhoon without real cause screwing the staff and guess what.......................

from Intracx:-
Please be advised that due to Typhoon Hagupit we are expecting operational disruptions to our services to and from Hong Kong on Wednesday, 24 September and possibly Thursday.

The normal staff travel service will be maintained. However, as there will be a large number of full-fare passengers whose booked flights have been disrupted and therefore need protection to our other services, the chances of getting away on sub-load travel will be slim for the next 24 to 36 hours.

Staff intending to travel from outports may be accepted subject to the usual acceptance criteria.

Because our first priority is to assist or full fare customers and to enable us to clear the backlog, we recommend sub-load travellers to consider postponing any non-essential travel for the next few days.

We appreciate your understanding and patience during this period of disruption.

Bob Nipperess
Employee Services Manager
Amazing what a unified workforce can achieve.

Thanks AOA
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Old 24th Sep 2008, 12:52
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You're based aren't you BandH?

So you probably don't know that in the last Typhoon and others before it CX cancelled ALL staff travel out of and into HK. Not just for the one day but for 3 or 4 days. Even though flights went out with empty seats we couldn't get on, even with J1. I and the AOA are aware of Staff travellers arriving at the "quiet" checkin counter to be sent away, even with empty seats. "sorry, no staff travel allowed"

Funnily enough they still let you take up their precious time buying a full fare ticket to get on the same plane

My father in law was not allowed to even standby for a flight to Oz, he had to walk over to the ticket counter and shell out $1200 AUD to get a seat. The flight went out half empty. That really pissed me off.


All staff were very pissed off and the AOA raised this again with the company only in the last few weeks.

Seems they had an effect as my post above attests.
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Old 24th Sep 2008, 13:22
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That's great AC, but it's hardly the magna carta!!
I don't see how even Cathay could refuse that request!!
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Old 24th Sep 2008, 13:28
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No I guess it's not earth shattering stuff BUT It all adds up mate.

Imagine what could be achieved if we were a really united workforce.

Imagine what NR will say when PW walks in and says "I now have 80% members Nick, lets talk".
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Old 24th Sep 2008, 14:52
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Imagine what NR will say when PW walks in and says "I now have 80% members Nick, lets talk".
NR: "Ok PW..what would you like to talk about?"

PW: "Well..how about we start talking about a payrise of say 50% accross the board due to inflation etc."

NR: "Haha PW..you must be joking right!"

PW: "No no NR..THIS time..we, the new and MIGHTY AOA is serious..we want a BIG payrise.."

NR: "My dear PW...you have a better chance of winning the MARK 6 lottery or even getting pregnant!..than any kind of payrise for your members..hahaha.."

PW: "Well I'm now representing 80% of all CX pilots and I have to inform you that if we don't get that payrise, we will have no alternative but to take further action.."

NR: "Hahahahaha..Oh come now PW..are you threatening the CX group..!!Gosh,I haven't laughed this much since the 49er debacle 10 years ago!!"

PW: "Well..NR..just between you and I,I know perfectly well we WON'T achieve a thing..but I'm going to have go back to the members with something!!"

NR: "Tell you what PW..I can probably arrange a slight increase in hourly pay,of..say 0.5% and another 1% to 2% over the next 2 years,in exchange for an increase of 10hours of productivity.."

PW: "Oh NR..perfect..that will DO just fine..
Now,lets talk about that golf trip to Phuket that you mentioned to me last week.."

SAME CIRCUS..different CLOWNS...
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Old 24th Sep 2008, 15:02
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CX caved in to the Cabin crew pretty quickly over paying for their doctor because the FAU stood up to them big time.

So, why can't we grow some balls?

We certainly can't with people like you around giving up before the start.
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Old 24th Sep 2008, 15:25
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I think you'll find the FAU win was only temporary and that they will be paying their visiting fees shortly.
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Old 24th Sep 2008, 16:13
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well it is late, and I am a bit tired.

however, I maintain that a strong unified union with Pilot's working WITH their fellow Pilot's is the only way forward to help us ALL.

Yes in the last years of ST our Balls have shrunk and we missed golden opportunities to get something better for all.

We now appear to have a GC and Pres working FOR the members and trying to make the company adhere to the contract.

Surely this is a good thing?

Isn't it?
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Old 25th Sep 2008, 01:14
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ok, fair enough. So get in the AOA and change it from WITHIN, maybe even get on the GC and do some good for us all.
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