Longhaul Crew on board question
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Longhaul Crew on board question
there are 4 crew on board for a long haul CX flight according to the website on the 744, 346 or 343
what is the crew? how many operate at a time?
leftseat: Captain
rightseat: First Officer
backseat: Second Officer
4th: ????
or is it just a rotation like:
during critical phases,
left seat: Captain
right seat: Senior F/O
during cruise phase,
left seat: F/O
right seat: S/O
what is the crew? how many operate at a time?
leftseat: Captain
rightseat: First Officer
backseat: Second Officer
4th: ????
or is it just a rotation like:
during critical phases,
left seat: Captain
right seat: Senior F/O
during cruise phase,
left seat: F/O
right seat: S/O
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From: Hong Kong
To use your wording:
Critical Phases:
LH Seat: Captain
RH Seat: First Officer
1st Observers: Relief Commander
2nd Observers: Second Officer
During Cruise Phase:
Can be a different mix but most common is
LH Seat: Captain
RH Seat: First Officer
Relief Commander & Second Officer resting.... then
LH Seat: Second Officer
RH Seat: Relief Commander
Critical Phases:
LH Seat: Captain
RH Seat: First Officer
1st Observers: Relief Commander
2nd Observers: Second Officer
During Cruise Phase:
Can be a different mix but most common is
LH Seat: Captain
RH Seat: First Officer
Relief Commander & Second Officer resting.... then
LH Seat: Second Officer
RH Seat: Relief Commander
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From: Hong Kong
If you are flying with guys like MFL(744) or PH(Airbus) then you get treated worse than a dog.
BTW did you know that when MFL was in the Air Force he was so useless that they wouldn't let him on the tactical C-130 squadron.Transport C-130's only for one of the great bullies (& incompetent pilots) of our time.
BTW did you know that when MFL was in the Air Force he was so useless that they wouldn't let him on the tactical C-130 squadron.Transport C-130's only for one of the great bullies (& incompetent pilots) of our time.
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From: Brexitland
3 man crew
Almost certainly going to 3 crew ULH - this from a CAD FOPS Inspector (RW). Not only will this save CX money, it will enable the Fleet expansions to go ahead. Regulatory authority?? Don't think so.
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From: Earth
A 4 man long haul can be so exhausting, I can't imagine being in an operating seat after a 15+hrs 3 man long haul. Where do they get the stats and data to come up with the conclusion it`s reasonable to do?
Last edited by bobrun; 22nd December 2007 at 14:12.
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4, 3 or 2 pilots
It surprises me that it takes 4 pilots to aviate a 744 passenger aircraft to HKG form LHR for an 11 hr flight. Yet, it only takes 2 pilots to fly the same companys aircraft, be it a freighter 744, on a 2 sector LHR-CDG-DEL 13 Hr duty! Oh and for 20% less pay.
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From: Hong Kong
It surprises me that it takes 4 pilots to aviate a 744 passenger aircraft to HKG form LHR for an 11 hr flight. Yet, it only takes 2 pilots to fly the same companys aircraft, be it a freighter 744, on a 2 sector LHR-CDG-DEL 13 Hr duty! Oh and for 20% less pay.
I personally believe we should all be on the same conditions & salary.
I don't however feel sorry for a bloke who accepted current Freighter conditions & then complains afterwards.
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No Complaints From Me
That was an observation I made Harbour Dweller. You are correct in that I knew exactly what I was getting in to when signing on the line. I certainly wouldn't want anyone feeling sorry for me as I love the job, especially as I get to fly with a great bunch of people who enjoy the job and get on with it without so much as a grumble. Maybe you should try it, we promise we wont bite.
