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Longhaul Crew on board question
there are 4 crew on board for a long haul CX flight according to the website on the 744, 346 or 343
what is the crew? how many operate at a time? leftseat: Captain rightseat: First Officer backseat: Second Officer 4th: ???? or is it just a rotation like: during critical phases, left seat: Captain right seat: Senior F/O during cruise phase, left seat: F/O right seat: S/O |
The 4th is a dog.:ok:
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To use your wording:
Critical Phases: LH Seat: Captain RH Seat: First Officer 1st Observers: Relief Commander 2nd Observers: Second Officer During Cruise Phase: Can be a different mix but most common is LH Seat: Captain RH Seat: First Officer Relief Commander & Second Officer resting.... then LH Seat: Second Officer RH Seat: Relief Commander |
If you are flying with guys like MFL(744) or PH(Airbus) then you get treated worse than a dog.
BTW did you know that when MFL was in the Air Force he was so useless that they wouldn't let him on the tactical C-130 squadron.Transport C-130's only for one of the great bullies (& incompetent pilots) of our time. |
4 crews on long haul.....for now! CX is working hard to save money by having only 3 pilots up front...
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3 man crew
Almost certainly going to 3 crew ULH - this from a CAD FOPS Inspector (RW). Not only will this save CX money, it will enable the Fleet expansions to go ahead. Regulatory authority?? Don't think so.:=
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A 4 man long haul can be so exhausting, I can't imagine being in an operating seat after a 15+hrs 3 man long haul. Where do they get the stats and data to come up with the conclusion it`s reasonable to do?
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4, 3 or 2 pilots
It surprises me that it takes 4 pilots to aviate a 744 passenger aircraft to HKG form LHR for an 11 hr flight. Yet, it only takes 2 pilots to fly the same companys aircraft, be it a freighter 744, on a 2 sector LHR-CDG-DEL 13 Hr duty! Oh and for 20% less pay.
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It surprises me that it takes 4 pilots to aviate a 744 passenger aircraft to HKG form LHR for an 11 hr flight. Yet, it only takes 2 pilots to fly the same companys aircraft, be it a freighter 744, on a 2 sector LHR-CDG-DEL 13 Hr duty! Oh and for 20% less pay. I personally believe we should all be on the same conditions & salary. I don't however feel sorry for a bloke who accepted current Freighter conditions & then complains afterwards. |
No Complaints From Me
That was an observation I made Harbour Dweller. You are correct in that I knew exactly what I was getting in to when signing on the line. I certainly wouldn't want anyone feeling sorry for me as I love the job, especially as I get to fly with a great bunch of people who enjoy the job and get on with it without so much as a grumble. Maybe you should try it, we promise we wont bite.
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