Hong Kong Airlines - more resignations?
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maybe alot of guys wants, intending, trying, saying, thinking or show the company how frustrated they are.
but still no one has resigned yet according to posts here
my guess is awaiting for a better package ? or a chance to jump to LHS ? just a guess
but still no one has resigned yet according to posts here
my guess is awaiting for a better package ? or a chance to jump to LHS ? just a guess
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i guess diablo_caliente could be right besides the weak part of p!lots.
Dabbo, dont look too hard for me at the EeK roadshow, I cant stand sand up my
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Hey Diablo, happy to oblige with the laughter. Yes I will be at the EK roadshow, for the money I'll take the sand up the 
I'll be the rather belligerent looking one with a permanent scowl!!!!
If I see a fellow in a red suit I will wave hello, might even buy you a beer (cheapest one cause I'm broke) and we can continue our little "waltz" around the subject matter.
I'll be the rather belligerent looking one with a permanent scowl!!!!If I see a fellow in a red suit I will wave hello, might even buy you a beer (cheapest one cause I'm broke) and we can continue our little "waltz" around the subject matter.
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Going back to the resignations with the guys thats were heading for Oasis....rumours were rife at that time that the housing allowance would go up to HK$20,000. When the 3 f/o's were turned down and had to go back to HKA with their tails between there legs HKA put aside the plans for the housing aloowance increase.
What do u guys think about these guys resigning and then coming back and retaining their seniority numbers? Before they left they wernt happy and were bagging the company...do you think they would stop doing the same....ie nothing has changed in the company.
What do u guys think about these guys resigning and then coming back and retaining their seniority numbers? Before they left they wernt happy and were bagging the company...do you think they would stop doing the same....ie nothing has changed in the company.
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Not sure about the details, but the three chaps had all intentions to go over, and it was only due to HKA and Oasis coming to some sort of no poaching agreement which stuffed them up. They hadn't resigned, they weren't allowed to!! Its ironic, the big man sent an email out once to say vote with your feet if you're not happy..and the guys couldn't even do that!! LOL
This means that the guys are still looking to leave anyway, once an opportunity comes around and in any case the seniority number doesn't mean much to the chaps as 1) no command course 2) not enough of the required hours to be up for the command course.
I know that one of the guys who tried to resign, has left the company. The other two will also leave when they have got another opportunity, this time making sure that they can actually leave!
This means that the guys are still looking to leave anyway, once an opportunity comes around and in any case the seniority number doesn't mean much to the chaps as 1) no command course 2) not enough of the required hours to be up for the command course.
I know that one of the guys who tried to resign, has left the company. The other two will also leave when they have got another opportunity, this time making sure that they can actually leave!
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The latest one I heard today is that a few of the boys from Eagle in HKA have interviews with PB, JC and ANZ. One if them has had an interview with CX. I suppose even though PB and JC dont pay as much its still better to be home.
I have a feeling that it'll be a case of Deja Vu for the management at HKA when these guys leave. I am aware that they a overstocked with F/O's but if there is a trend of guys joining then leaving after 6-12 months then others will see HKA as a stepping stone to the major carriers.
The pilot management pretty much have their hands tied with the issue with salary and housing allowance increase. If HKA want to be serious competitors in HK (
) then the mainland management need to adopt a 'western' attitude towards ther welfare of their pilots and staff.
They'll need to pull up their socks with basic things like the way cabin crew and even some flight crew carry themselves with interaction with HKA's travelling public....ie big improvement in their english standards. I hear that sometimes communication between cabin crew and flight crew is a huge mission.
Competition in HK is a good thing for the public but HKA better be careful not be tagged the budget/low cost/no frills airline of HK.
I have a feeling that it'll be a case of Deja Vu for the management at HKA when these guys leave. I am aware that they a overstocked with F/O's but if there is a trend of guys joining then leaving after 6-12 months then others will see HKA as a stepping stone to the major carriers.
The pilot management pretty much have their hands tied with the issue with salary and housing allowance increase. If HKA want to be serious competitors in HK (
) then the mainland management need to adopt a 'western' attitude towards ther welfare of their pilots and staff. They'll need to pull up their socks with basic things like the way cabin crew and even some flight crew carry themselves with interaction with HKA's travelling public....ie big improvement in their english standards. I hear that sometimes communication between cabin crew and flight crew is a huge mission.
Competition in HK is a good thing for the public but HKA better be careful not be tagged the budget/low cost/no frills airline of HK.
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I believe 3 or 4 F/Os have interviews with KA shortly. If they walk upright and have a pilots licence, they will probably get in.
If true, they will be leaving well short of their 3 year commitment and not a thing, other than dock a months pay, HKA can do about it.
Way to go HKA, real good operating philosophy, train pilots for other airlines, we should be in business for at least another, oh say, 12 months
If true, they will be leaving well short of their 3 year commitment and not a thing, other than dock a months pay, HKA can do about it.
Way to go HKA, real good operating philosophy, train pilots for other airlines, we should be in business for at least another, oh say, 12 months
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but isn't there a agreement between some carriers and HKA for jumping ship ?
Thought that happened to the 3 stooges who went back to HKA from Oasis and the 20K allowance did not go thru ?
News in the air is saying more a/c's arriving. 9 for 2008 ?
But till now, no one has resigned yet (moi could be wrong) to date except alot of shouting out LOUD with interviews.
Thought that happened to the 3 stooges
who went back to HKA from Oasis and the 20K allowance did not go thru ? News in the air is saying more a/c's arriving. 9 for 2008 ?
But till now, no one has resigned yet (moi could be wrong) to date except alot of shouting out LOUD with interviews.
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http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.p...6085712&nseq=0
Looks kinda ordinary with the Hainan name......needs more creativity with the colors and livery. (hard thing to find in the mainland ie creativity)
Looks kinda ordinary with the Hainan name......needs more creativity with the colors and livery. (hard thing to find in the mainland ie creativity)
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Anybody else sick to death of hearing about the pay and conditions increasing
Well, I am, and also sick of being the lowest paid jet pilot in HK ( inc corporate ), probably not far from lowest in Asia.
Its been nice flying with you guys/gals, most of you are waisted at HKA.
I know there probably isnt much call for a middle aged pilot with 15000+ hours, 9000 jet command, but I'm going to give it a go, and as soon as I get a bite, I'm outta here.
Suggest you do the same, I doubt this place will ever get any better, you will grow old and grey waiting for it to.
Well, I am, and also sick of being the lowest paid jet pilot in HK ( inc corporate ), probably not far from lowest in Asia.
Its been nice flying with you guys/gals, most of you are waisted at HKA.
I know there probably isnt much call for a middle aged pilot with 15000+ hours, 9000 jet command,
but I'm going to give it a go, and as soon as I get a bite, I'm outta here.Suggest you do the same, I doubt this place will ever get any better, you will grow old and grey waiting for it to.
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Tuesday has come and...............GONE!! And the big announcement was......................... SWEET FA!!!!!!!!!!
Good bye Rumour Tuesday,
Who could hang a payrise on you,
When you change with every new day,
Sure AINT gonna miss you
(apologies to Mick, Keith, and the boys)
And then they lied to my face,
Now I'm a believer,
Not a trace, of doubt in my mind
I'm getting a raise
Hmmmmmmm, I'm a believer I couldn't leave em if I tried
(Monkees is kinda apt don't you think?)
Good bye Rumour Tuesday,
Who could hang a payrise on you,
When you change with every new day,
Sure AINT gonna miss you
(apologies to Mick, Keith, and the boys)
And then they lied to my face,
Now I'm a believer,
Not a trace, of doubt in my mind
I'm getting a raise
Hmmmmmmm, I'm a believer I couldn't leave em if I tried
(Monkees is kinda apt don't you think?)
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Why dont you guys and gals go for a mass interview with CX, KA, Oasis etc etc...that'll rattle the HKA management!
The next 2 aircraft are rumoured to be going to HKE not HKA!
With 500 jet there are widebody positions available at places like Gulfair, Etihad, Air India, Jet airways etc.
Why fly for a commuter airline where lies and deciept are a part of life???
The next 2 aircraft are rumoured to be going to HKE not HKA!
With 500 jet there are widebody positions available at places like Gulfair, Etihad, Air India, Jet airways etc.
Why fly for a commuter airline where lies and deciept are a part of life???
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Is it true that 5 guys resigned yesterday? All off to KA?
Is it also true that the meeting was a non-event? ie "Please guys...stcik around for bigger things to happen etc etc?
Is it also true that the meeting was a non-event? ie "Please guys...stcik around for bigger things to happen etc etc?
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3 "definites" don't know about the other 2. Meeting went around in circles and produced nothing, nothing at all, except the vague assertion that there may be something by christmas. Still no upgrade process.
Unfortunately you can fool all of the people some of the time and some of the people all of the time. I think that our esteemed "upper" management believe that the second part of the previous sentence is how it works.
Unfortunately you can fool all of the people some of the time and some of the people all of the time. I think that our esteemed "upper" management believe that the second part of the previous sentence is how it works.