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Old 26th Oct 2006, 21:14
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Originally Posted by Phlaps 40
Ermm...HK Express is not a LCC in any sense of the term. Allocated seating, free food and alcohol, blankets & pillows etc etc. Don't know why people say that. They're a full service regional.
Oh the narrow line drawn between the enhanced services of some LCC's and the diminishing service of our full service carriers. These days, if you don't have 3 classes, you must be a LCC!
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Old 27th Oct 2006, 02:57
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Sorry Phlaps (but don't get them in a knot). It was a slip of the typing finger that dared to refer to HKE (Shuttle) as an LCC. Unfortunately I misinterpreted our paper work that the new drive through bays were basically for LCC's, and I lumped you in with those. As for your complaint about tower people refering to you as "Shuttle", I agree with you. The only way you (might) get it changed is to put in an letter of complaint. No one is going to listen to you here. Sorry that you won't be putting any money on us at the quiz night, I can understand that, but you also must understand that a fair whack of the Controller's and students that we are training here can barely tell the difference between a B747 and a Tiger Moth...not quite, but you know what I mean!

For cpdude, if I recall the boss of (your airline) some time ago when asked if C# would start up a "LCC" a la Qantas with JET*, his answer was "We already have a LCC, it's called the back of a Triple Seven". So the wheel keeps on turning.....
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Old 3rd Nov 2006, 13:35
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Ok they're all unbunched now. I've had my cuppa tea, two Bex and a good lie down. :P Jokes aside, not too stressed. Just gets a bit repetitive sometimes.

CPdude,
Schaaa right. There's no such thing as a premium LCC. Their entire business model is based on min service for min cost with all other goods/services available at a premium. Ryanair, Easyjet, Southwest, et al. Those who have tried to straddle the divide have failed (remember BA's attempt with GOing GOing, GONE??).

Perhaps the point you were trying to make was the first tier carriers have been eroding their services for some time to get closer to LCC's. On that point I can agree with you. Qantas and their meal boxes (although they finally admitted defeat on that particular one) and CX and their unwavering enforcement of baggage allowances are but a few examples. Even SQ has cut back (most notably on catering) *sob*

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Originally Posted by Phlaps 40
CPdude,
Schaaa right. There's no such thing as a premium LCC. Their entire business model is based on min service for min cost with all other goods/services available at a premium.
Not true!

Look at Jet Blue, WestJet and a select few others. Leather seats, PVT's, Sat TV, free snack/drinks. Years ago LCC was an aluminium tube and a seat, now with some there is plus, plus!

Then on the first tier airlines we have seen cuts after cuts. AC is charging for drinks and pillows! So tell me where the line is drawn between a cheap major and a good LCC?

I stand with my definition...if you don't have a 3-class service you are a LCC or LCC like!
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