Fully ready?????????
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From: illabo
Fully ready?????????
What is going on in HK?? What is all this "FULLY ready" rubbish??? Ready is ready isn't it. Where does any document talk about "fully ready." If I hear it one more time I will scream.
Fully pregnant???
What a bunch of sheep.
Have I been in HK too long?
Fully Rodney.
Fully pregnant???
What a bunch of sheep.
Have I been in HK too long?
Fully Rodney.
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From: Established.
Believe it is a hangover from the old Gatwick days when you had to get in a 45 min queue by calling ready initially and hence later you would call fully ready, and like anything in aviation, 'if he is saying it then it must be right so i'll say it too'.
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From: illabo
Thanks Messiah, so we can blame the poms eh??11
Well so far there has been 811 views at my question. Surely a proportion of those views are from some of the dudes calling fully ready. So PLEASE STOP. Ready is ready okay - fully ready is almost tautology.
Rod
Well so far there has been 811 views at my question. Surely a proportion of those views are from some of the dudes calling fully ready. So PLEASE STOP. Ready is ready okay - fully ready is almost tautology.
Rod
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From: hONG kONG
While I fully understand your concern over getting things exactly right a la 'the Cathay Way' I would have thought there were more important issues to waste your heartbeats on at the moment?
RP07/Lai-see/Prof share/60/DEFO etc?
Press the call bell and ask the charming young lady nicely for a calming cup of tea and make your stress levels fully disappear
RP07/Lai-see/Prof share/60/DEFO etc?
Press the call bell and ask the charming young lady nicely for a calming cup of tea and make your stress levels fully disappear
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From: THE LOGIC AND TRUTH
''Tower xxx, on C, taxyng for holding point A, et etc etc fully ready on reaching holding point A runway 05 ''
Do these blokes just love the sound of their own voice or don't they know that the tower needs a clearance from another sector before being able to give these twats a clearance for T/O.
Its just anoying listening to scratch scrtach scratch scratch over the radio!
Seriously!
Get a job at a radio station!
Do these blokes just love the sound of their own voice or don't they know that the tower needs a clearance from another sector before being able to give these twats a clearance for T/O.
Its just anoying listening to scratch scrtach scratch scratch over the radio!
Seriously!
Get a job at a radio station!
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From: Hongkers
Hong Kong (and Macau) operate auto-release procedures into HK airspace. Under normal circumstances, HK Tower can fire traffic unrestricted to 5000 ft, and Macau Tower (via Zhuhai APP) to 6000 ft via LKC, at any time, without coordination, with the required inter-departure spacing.
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From: Earth
Still Just to lighten things up a bit, best ever comment on the radio ??
Heathrow controller, "Speedy 123, is that you just to the left of the centreline?"
Speedy, "Thats right sir !, and the first officers just on the right "
c ys
Heathrow controller, "Speedy 123, is that you just to the left of the centreline?"
Speedy, "Thats right sir !, and the first officers just on the right "
c ys
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From: illabo
CPDUDE - my radio discipline is no better than anyone else's. I love a good laugh at a well timed one liner on the air, and I'm not averse to throwing my own witty line around now and then. My point is about the wankiness of "fully ready". The correct call is ready and saying fully ready makes not an ounce of difference to your state of readiness, ready is ready, and the correct call is a more abbreviated call. And I really don't think ATC is going to say "quick, bump him up in the queue, he's "FULLY READY." Fully ready is just stupid.
NULLAMAN - open your eyes (or should I say one eye) buddy, there are other operators in HK apart from Cathay. So 60, DEFO pax , and COS 07 is not a concern to many of us. No stress in my life dude.
7FF - let me know when you see the sun here in HK - it's usually obscured in "vis 2000m in China' left over haze."
REENTRY - you forgot to put in the obligatory "oohkay ...." in front of Biff, Rip, Chuck and Randy's transmissions.
NULLAMAN - open your eyes (or should I say one eye) buddy, there are other operators in HK apart from Cathay. So 60, DEFO pax , and COS 07 is not a concern to many of us. No stress in my life dude.
7FF - let me know when you see the sun here in HK - it's usually obscured in "vis 2000m in China' left over haze."
REENTRY - you forgot to put in the obligatory "oohkay ...." in front of Biff, Rip, Chuck and Randy's transmissions.
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CPDUDE - my radio discipline is no better than anyone else's. I love a good laugh at a well timed one liner on the air, and I'm not averse to throwing my own witty line around now and then. My point is about the wankiness of "fully ready". The correct call is ready and saying fully ready makes not an ounce of difference to your state of readiness, ready is ready, and the correct call is a more abbreviated call. And I really don't think ATC is going to say "quick, bump him up in the queue, he's "FULLY READY." Fully ready is just stupid.
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From: hong kong
I think that next time I hear "fully" ready/established,etc I shall chip in with a "partially" just to add to the general confusion.Agreed that it generally comes from "The" Birdseed or "The" Virgin. Uurgh!
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From: Samsonite Avenue
Fully Ready is something that I only hear with crews that operate into the London airports.
One ATCO at my home airfield made me laugh when a BA Minibus called 'Fully Ready' and the response was 'Roger - are you requesting push and start?' to which came a 'Affirm' in a slightly puzzled tone!
Gotcha!
One ATCO at my home airfield made me laugh when a BA Minibus called 'Fully Ready' and the response was 'Roger - are you requesting push and start?' to which came a 'Affirm' in a slightly puzzled tone!
Gotcha!
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From: uk
Bekol,
We tend to get a lot of Scandiwegans and Francais saying ready for push and start.OK push start approved.Look through the bins and they are still loading the bags.10 mins later they finally start pushing.It's also a hangover from LL because of the problem above.
The Speedbuckets saying degrees is a best practice from London.Any heading that ends in zero must have degrees at the end,not to be confused with a FL.Headings with 5 at the end are ok.However if you have a FL that ends in 5,thats quadrantal in Class G,then I don't have the answer yet.
You should see the crap that we have to say now.Blair's nanny Britain.Not like the old days at CLK building site.
We tend to get a lot of Scandiwegans and Francais saying ready for push and start.OK push start approved.Look through the bins and they are still loading the bags.10 mins later they finally start pushing.It's also a hangover from LL because of the problem above.
The Speedbuckets saying degrees is a best practice from London.Any heading that ends in zero must have degrees at the end,not to be confused with a FL.Headings with 5 at the end are ok.However if you have a FL that ends in 5,thats quadrantal in Class G,then I don't have the answer yet.
You should see the crap that we have to say now.Blair's nanny Britain.Not like the old days at CLK building site.
