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Old 16th Dec 2005, 23:34
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Well, the United DC-10 Captain (Sioux City Iowa /UA-232) must have been “Weak”.

I think the United Pilot of UA-811 (B747-122/ Honolulu) with a rather big hole in the side, was a bit “Weak” also.

It’s a big statement. Just curious, who are the best pilots? Europeans, Africans, Asians? Obviously not North Americans. Maybe the Australians and Kiwi’s get the honour.

Maybe 747 pilots are the best ISO the counterparts that do anywhere from 3-7 sectors a day on regional flights around the world. Maybe it’s the guys/gals flying around in single/twin engine turboprops in all the weather. Maybe its the fighter pilots of the world who get shot at.
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Old 17th Dec 2005, 03:08
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Every now and then someone will make a statement about the quality of Pilots either from a specific airline or background. Pilots with a varied background often don't make these kinds of comments because they are very aware of the fact that you have above average and below average pilots everywhere.

What can be accurately discussed is the atmosphere created by companies with respect to the environment that pilots have to work under. A weak environment where procedures are ill-thought or not enforced allows less structured individuals to freelance the operation of the aircraft creating an unsafe or not as-safe state. I can say that Cathay has a very strict often described as anal enforcement of procedures in the cockpit which is something NA airlines do not have. This has very little to do with quality of a pilot but it does create a more professional operation generally speaking.

Being a NA pilot working in Asia I can say that many NA pilots come to Cathay with a very casual or relaxed attitude only to find that it is not accepted or appreciated by the large contingent of British and Australian Checkers.

One thing that is consistent when you ask a pilot “who is the best” the answer is usually "I am".
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Old 18th Dec 2005, 13:53
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Pointless.
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Old 18th Dec 2005, 18:21
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I wonder if there is a Doctor's web site where they publicly ridicule each other and gloat when another hospital's patient dies? We demand 'Professional' status but we display the mentality of a 'chav' !
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Old 18th Dec 2005, 20:20
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FCUX,

Pointless because you cannot see that you accused the wrong person of making that comment even when the evidence is right here in this thread!

Your lack of apology is indicative of whom you are.

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Old 20th Dec 2005, 08:52
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You should learn when to pul your head in and shut your mouth.

It's people like you with your poorly thought opinions that give this industry and its people a poor name.

"best pilots.... worst pilots.... Cx.... NA.... bla bla bla bla....."

Sign off and go and breath some fresh Asian air!

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Old 20th Dec 2005, 16:41
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You must be a young regional pilot that finds it difficult to step up and play with the big boys. Can't join them so the next best is to defame them is that it? Childish you are but try and keep up here.
If condescension is the yardstick by which safety is measured, then truly CX must be the safest place of all! My god, is that "big boys" thing for real? Too funny! It never ceases to amaze me how people can begin to believe their own bs after enough time!



I can say that Cathay has a very strict often described as anal enforcement of procedures in the cockpit which is something NA airlines do not have.
Uh. Ok. Dammit, and I have a Air Canada flight booked next week. Little did I know, they're just playing cards and having a party up front, whereas here I thought they adhered to some sort of strict cockpit procedures. It's probably a lost cause to hope that the author of this comment could realize how laughable it is.

I think CX is generally regarded as having an excellent safety culture. I also think there are PLENTY of examples of how CX is not above reproach in that regard either. But trying to somehow elevate the status of CX, their commanders, or what have you, only looks...what was the word? Childish?
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