Cathay Training

[Recapitulate]

Where is Cathay's Training? I assume it is at their center in HK?

How long is the training for a new Freighter Fleet F/O?
How about the IOE?

Thanks,

[PUDDY]

Finesse Training

I have a different question than Recapitulate, but I thought we might be able to kill two birds with one stone.

I have been selected by Cathay for an SO position and have a tentative start date of Nov 1st.

I am curious about what the training sceme is all about. I am a Canadian and they talk about Finesse Training in OZ. What is involved in this....Am I going to have to get out the old Multi-engine training manual again??

I have done several searches on this subject and can't seem to find much.

Any input is greatly appreciated

Thanks

[404 Titan]

PUDDY

Yep. 4 weeks in Adelaide. You go there to convert your foreign flight crew license to a HK CPL or ATPL if you meet the requirements. The whole process involves 9 subjects, 4-6 hours in a BE76 Duchess and 7 sim sessions in a thing that sought of resembles a B737-200 but with crude EFIS and FMC. Once all that is completed you head back to HK to do the exams to convert your license (up to nine) and then start you conversion onto the aircraft you have been assigned.

[PUDDY]

404 Titan
Thanks for the reponse. You definatly anwsered my qiestion...With regards to these exams. How many do you have to complete..Does it depend on how much time and experience you have? Or is it the same for everyone??

[404 Titan]

PUDDY

To some extent experience does count. What type of aircraft you have flown. What license you present to convert and how the CAD feels on the day. The last point is the big one, as there seems no rime or reason in the CAD’s decision sometimes.

[A/T less]

Just curious.... how is groundschool done in HKG?

Is it Computer based?

Or an actual classroom?

Thanks

[404 Titan]

A/T less

95% computer based with about 5% chalk & talk.

Recapitulate

I have tried to find out how the freighter guys do their license conversion. To be honest I don\'t know. When I was going through Adelaide a number of years ago there were some freighter guys there attending classes but none of the rest. Maybe some recent freighter guys would like to help out here.
I would imagine the training is similar in length to that of an SO which is 5-6 months from date of joining.

Finally I would like to help you with "IOE" but I have no idea what it means.

[A/T less]

"IOE"= "line training"

[404 Titan]

A/T less

Thanks for that. In which case Recapitulate the line training takes about 2 to 3 months.

[sodapop]

Any freighter pilots who wish to comment on the length of license conversion and CX training would be greatly appreciated. Since the -200 is still used in Europe, how does that affect the line training, i.e. is it possible you can spend some time at a base in Europe (CDG, FRF) for a part of the training? Also, do you get the chance to hop home during any breaks in the process?

Thanks.

Sodapop

[FYI]

Training on the 400F for me took 4 months from start to finish. The classic will take alot longer due to the fact that line training can only be done on the freighter which doesn't have alot of the shorter sectors like the pax fleet. Note: your line training if you are joining the 400F fleet will be done 95% on the pax 400's.

As far as which CAD exams you'll have to sit.....depends on your previous a/c type experience I think. Not sure about now, but in the past guys joining with only mil fighter time had to do alot more exams, even to the point of going to Adelaide with the SO new hires to do some ground school and exams there. I guess the CAD didn't appreciate F18 time as multi engine......