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From: Oz
Dragonair
Greetings All,
Have read much regarding the entry of Cathay into the China mainland market and the possible effects to Dragon. Greatly appreciate the thoughts from any Dragonair crew on the employment prospects over the years to come and job satisfaction levels.
Very difficult to obtain any info on what seems like a great job prospect.
Thanks
Have read much regarding the entry of Cathay into the China mainland market and the possible effects to Dragon. Greatly appreciate the thoughts from any Dragonair crew on the employment prospects over the years to come and job satisfaction levels.
Very difficult to obtain any info on what seems like a great job prospect.
Thanks
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Of Course !!!
That is because we are all so tired from working so hard !!!Hard work ! Under crewed ! Expanding ..........
Hard working environment and 'Management' constantly eroding our conditions with petty scrimping and saving ...........
Not even allowed a coffee machine in the crew room !!!
Go figure ....................
Find a happier work environment ..................
Keep smiling
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From: All over
OZ2,
I wouldn't take Hugh's words as gospel. From some of my friends who are employed with KA they tell me that they do work hard but are rewarded for this. Expansion plans are underway.
Perhaps best to get a reply from others (not just 1 dissatisfied employee).
I wouldn't take Hugh's words as gospel. From some of my friends who are employed with KA they tell me that they do work hard but are rewarded for this. Expansion plans are underway.
Perhaps best to get a reply from others (not just 1 dissatisfied employee).
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From: Oz
Thanks to both for your input, (accept that we will never all agree )
Very interested with an initial interview planned early in the new year.
Anyone with further input most welcome !!
Regards to all
OZ2
Very interested with an initial interview planned early in the new year.
Anyone with further input most welcome !!
Regards to all
OZ2
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From: Anywhere and Everywhere
OZ2
I am pursuing Cathay and Dragon as well. At this stage no invitation as yet. Last communication with Dragon, I was bummed off the S/O listing to Direct entry F/O because I have exceeded the S/O hours entry requirement. My new minimum now stands at 4000 hours. No Airbus type rating neither.
From good source that they are expansing rapidly.
Would like to ask what are your qualifications? I have 2500 TT with 1200 turbine in the Metro 23. Care to comment!
From good source that they are expansing rapidly.
Would like to ask what are your qualifications? I have 2500 TT with 1200 turbine in the Metro 23. Care to comment!
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From: S37
Folks
I also have been invited to an interview in Melbourne, mid January. I would love to hear any constructive comment regarding conditions at KA and lifestyle in Hong Kong.
Also, any idea what the interview process in like?
Cheers
I also have been invited to an interview in Melbourne, mid January. I would love to hear any constructive comment regarding conditions at KA and lifestyle in Hong Kong.
Also, any idea what the interview process in like?
Cheers
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From: Hotels around the world
G'Day julietmikepapa,
I'm also very interested in joining KA. Could you advice when did you send your application and how long was the wait?
A few of the guys from whereI am, have sent in theirs a few years ago but have yet to get a reply. Some are type rated on the A320s, A340s and even the 744s. Their hours range from 4000 onwards, with wide body experience.
Just not sure where do we stand.
Thanks.
I'm also very interested in joining KA. Could you advice when did you send your application and how long was the wait?
A few of the guys from whereI am, have sent in theirs a few years ago but have yet to get a reply. Some are type rated on the A320s, A340s and even the 744s. Their hours range from 4000 onwards, with wide body experience.
Just not sure where do we stand.
Thanks.
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From: Between land masses
You Dragonair chaps seem to be very tight-lipped in passing on any info - but perhaps you are all working too hard to find the time to reply?
Is there an Internet application site for aircrew?
If no, from where can one obtain the applications?
Do Dragonair curently employ any foreign (or local) female pilots?
Dragon is advertising for a multitude of positions, but NONE of those are for pilots.
Thank you for your responses.
Is there an Internet application site for aircrew?
If no, from where can one obtain the applications?
Do Dragonair curently employ any foreign (or local) female pilots?
Dragon is advertising for a multitude of positions, but NONE of those are for pilots.
Thank you for your responses.
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From: Shagland
KA has stopped advertising its pilot positions because it doesn't need to, it has enough CVs on hand! The recruiting department is overloaded. KA is still expanding in 04', more buses and frighters coming on line. The training department is overheating, for both cabin crew and pilots. Most pilots are into overtime every month, hence the lack of info in these forums. KA have female pilots, both local and expat. Great working environment, China is the new Asian economic engine. If there was no money in China, why is CX trying so hard to get back in? KA is Hong Kong's true airline.
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From: York International
KA has HK's only female chinese captain.
If you have a computer look on the website and get the address to send to. Doesn't matter how many applications they have, they only seem to look at the most recent.
Expansion? 1.2 billion people are about to go travelling, how many 380s will they need?
If you have a computer look on the website and get the address to send to. Doesn't matter how many applications they have, they only seem to look at the most recent.
Expansion? 1.2 billion people are about to go travelling, how many 380s will they need?
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From: Between land masses
How about remuneration?
The word around is that Dragonair are willing to pay fair market price for experience, and for that reason they look set to move ahead in leaps and bounds.
Nothing like an unhappy workforce to rapidly #@%* your business - regardless of mentality!
The word around is that Dragonair are willing to pay fair market price for experience, and for that reason they look set to move ahead in leaps and bounds.
Nothing like an unhappy workforce to rapidly #@%* your business - regardless of mentality!
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From: Hong Kong
I don't know wher half of you get you info, but it is off the mark alot. First off, no female chinese captain would have interviewed anyone. That lady is from operations, the one who most likely processes your CV.
Yes, we are working hard, the 320 captains are flying 80 to 90 hour months, the f/o's close to the same. The 330 roster isn't as bad, but between 28 to 36 sectors a month, 6 to 8 over nights, with late finishes.
I have been here for quite awhile, and yes we are working harder than in the past year, but the company is in such a fever to cut costs, they are trying anything on regarding attacking our COS.
If you are planning on showing up here with a wife and two kids who are in school, you won't be saving much. HK tax your salary,(small when considering our home countries), tax your school allowance, tax your housing allowance, tax your travel allowance.
Don't be surprised if the Govn't introduces sales tax in the next 4 years.
Did I mention the pollution? Enough said...
On a positive note, the guys are great to work with, and that helps.
If you are looking for a quick command, this is the place, but if you are looking for destinations, a back end crew you can have fun with, then this isn't the place.
Good Luck.
Yes, we are working hard, the 320 captains are flying 80 to 90 hour months, the f/o's close to the same. The 330 roster isn't as bad, but between 28 to 36 sectors a month, 6 to 8 over nights, with late finishes.
I have been here for quite awhile, and yes we are working harder than in the past year, but the company is in such a fever to cut costs, they are trying anything on regarding attacking our COS.
If you are planning on showing up here with a wife and two kids who are in school, you won't be saving much. HK tax your salary,(small when considering our home countries), tax your school allowance, tax your housing allowance, tax your travel allowance.
Don't be surprised if the Govn't introduces sales tax in the next 4 years.
Did I mention the pollution? Enough said...
On a positive note, the guys are great to work with, and that helps.
If you are looking for a quick command, this is the place, but if you are looking for destinations, a back end crew you can have fun with, then this isn't the place.
Good Luck.
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From: Oz
Singletrack,
Thanks to you and the other KA folk for the input, the information is very useful.
Can anyone elaborate on how the COS are being attacked, ie: any areas in particular, will this become more widespread (on current indications) ?
Thanks in advance, Post or PM's appreciated.
Oz2
Thanks to you and the other KA folk for the input, the information is very useful.
Can anyone elaborate on how the COS are being attacked, ie: any areas in particular, will this become more widespread (on current indications) ?
Thanks in advance, Post or PM's appreciated.
Oz2
Believe it or not !!!
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From: Between land masses
"It's not that they can't afford them, they are just *******with your mind."
They're only *******with their OWN (tiny) minds, JM - trying hard to justify their menial positions and exorbitant salaries.
Which would have been cheaper - to have left the coffee machines in place and continued to have paid for the hot water, coffee, and coffee cups, or to continue paying these full time parasites, salaries, holiday pay, sick leave and staff travel??
The tail wagging the dog?!!
H.R. is something that is a waste of time and money, and superfluos to NECESSARY operating costs of any airline.
They are the leeches on an otherwise healthy body, sucking vital blood supplies.
They're only *******with their OWN (tiny) minds, JM - trying hard to justify their menial positions and exorbitant salaries.
Which would have been cheaper - to have left the coffee machines in place and continued to have paid for the hot water, coffee, and coffee cups, or to continue paying these full time parasites, salaries, holiday pay, sick leave and staff travel??
The tail wagging the dog?!!
H.R. is something that is a waste of time and money, and superfluos to NECESSARY operating costs of any airline.
They are the leeches on an otherwise healthy body, sucking vital blood supplies.
Last edited by Jetdriver; 17th January 2004 at 22:39.