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The Ferret 21st October 2005 14:12

Good Acronyms?
 
My shipping company recently lost all my Instructor notes in a move abroad and I am trying to rack my brain for some of the acronyms used to teach various aviation related topics.

The one in particular that prompted this topic is for the hazards of thunderstorms - I seem to remember !!!!WEL - is this familiar to anybody out there and if so help me put together the hazards?

If you have any more that would be useful for an FIC Board that would be good too!

How about Icing, Fog, Weather Fronts, Nav acronyms etc?

Looking forward to your input!

nick14 21st October 2005 17:08

TVMDC-true virgings make dull companions!! lol-and to get them 2 go down add Whiskey ie
T
V
M
D
C
ie going down +Westerly variation.

Happy landings:ok:

The Ferret 22nd October 2005 02:45

GIFTAR or HATFIR?
 
Thanks for that one Nick!

What about Nav turning points? GIFTAR or HATFIR?

Gyros and new Heading
Instruments T's and P's
Fuel enough to get home and next leg
Time for next leg
Altitude?
Radio call

OR

Heading
Altitude
Time
Fuel
Instruments T's and P's
Radio call

Thoughts?

Also heard another one today for remembering actions to recover from an unusual attitude - WASP

Wings level
Attitude
Speed
Power

Any more?:uhoh:

Human Factor 22nd October 2005 12:53

The RAF use FEEL for something. For the life of me, I can't remember what....

Chinchilla.612 22nd October 2005 18:04

Human Factor,

FEEL is

Fuel
Engine
Electrics
Location

And is the equivalent of civvie FREDA checks.

BigEndBob 22nd October 2005 19:00

WTFWT


Said a few times!

The Ferret 23rd October 2005 17:28

Thunderstorm Acronym?
 
Very good Big End Bob - I have certainly said that one a few times!

I still need help with !!!!WEL for the thunderstorm hazards! Come on - somebody must know them!

..........and what is that one for remembering the conversions from IAS to TAS? Eye Eye Peter Rabbit...............etc?

The Ferret:uhoh:

Send Clowns 23rd October 2005 17:53

ICE T Pretty Cool Drink.

Credit to Steve, our ATPL Instruments instructor for that mnemonic for IAS CAS EAS TAS then the corrections to follow the flow: Position (or pressure, don't forget instrument as well though), Compressibility and Density.

Keygrip 24th October 2005 02:36

Did hear one for engine failure in a twin - but you'll have to give it a bit of latitude for not being in EXACTLY the right order...

Firewall everything,
Undercarriage Up,
Correct Yaw,
Kill the dead engine.

Funny thing, can't remember how to spell the nmemonic - andybody know it? Seemed to recall it was, apparently, the first thing that came into your head when you realised you head an engine failure.

breakscrew 24th October 2005 09:07

Hi Ferret,
Excuse my poor memory but:
S = showers (rain in various forms)
H = Hail
I = Icing
T = turbulence
W = Weather (gusts, unstable conditions)
E = (I am having a CRAFT moment and cannot remember)
L = Lightning.

Perhaps this will jog your memory. If it does, please let me know what the E is, 'cos it is driving me mad.....

BS;)

A390 24th October 2005 09:34

breakscrew - pretty good attempt...

I think the 'E' stands for ' Electrical Effects' meaning St Elmos fire as a precursor to the lightning.

Rgds

A390

The Ferret 26th October 2005 00:21

Hey Breakscrew! Good effort.:ok:

With A390's help we might be there with !!!!WEL! I am still not sure however about the S. Showers is a good guess but could not these have been included in the W for Weather. I have a niggling feeling that the S might have been for Severe downdraughts or something else severe?

I just thought of the one that we used to use to convert IAS to TAS - "Eye Eye See Peter Rabbit Charlie Elephant Doing Time" who ever came up with thath one I do not know but it seems to have stuck once I prised it out of the back of my memory bank! It stands for:

Eye - I - IAS+
Eye - I - IEC (Instrument Error Correction) =
See - C - CAS (Calibrated) +
P - PEC (Pressure Error Correction)=
R - RAS (Rectified)+
C - CEC (Compressibility)=
E - EAS (Equivalent)+
D - DEC (Density)=
T - TAS

Anybody want to have a go at these?

CADET
CDMVT
MFFHHB

The Ferret:confused: :confused:

Chimbu chuckles 26th October 2005 08:22

!!!! Me I'm In Trouble

Fuel selector
Mixture
Ignition
Instrument
Throttle

Pretty obvious what used for.

Craggenmore 26th October 2005 21:14

WASP........Wings level, Attitude, Speed, Power.....

Are you sure?

If you're in an unusual attitude with extreme nose down or up, the first thing is Power for you don't want to exceed VNE or stall? Then level the wings, then the attitude, then fine tune the power again depending where your speed is at?

Cadburys Dairy Milk Very Tasty

Compass Deviation Magnetic Variation True

The Ferret 27th October 2005 00:48

WASP is for Helos
 
Craggenmore - well done on the CDMVT - take a brownie point!

I think WASP was designed for and is more applicable to helicopters (in fact Wasp was a helo!) where power is less important in the initial stages of an unusual attitude, but plays a major role in the final part of the recovery - glad to see you are thinking about it though!

So how about CADET and MFFHHB?

The Ferret:ok:

breakscrew 27th October 2005 07:51

Go on then, I'll give it another go:

M - Mixture
F - Fuel Pump on
F - Flaps
H - Hatches
H - Harness
B - Brakes

You see, I fly a really old scaryplane sometimes....:)

Chippik 27th October 2005 14:35

heres one for pre take-off

To
Many
People
Fcuk
In
Cheap
Hotels


Trim, Mixture/Mags, Prop/Primer, Fuel, Instruments, Carb, Hatch/Harnesses

Obs cop 27th October 2005 22:29

Ferret,

Don't know why but CADET always lodged in my head as simply Compass to True Add East. No really an acronym but hey, I can still remember it after all these years.

I have always had a soft spot for my down wind checks though:

M - my
F - friend
F - fergie
H - has a
H - heavenly
B - bosom

representing mixture, fuel, flaps, hatches, harnesses and brakes.

Obs cop

sgsslok 27th October 2005 23:40

The basic principles of an engine:

Suck, Sqeeze, Bang, Blow
(Intake, Compression, Combustion, Exhaust)


In the US for instrument currency:


Six Approaches
Holding
Intercepting
Tracking
within 6 months


In the US, required information for VOR check:
Dog Poop Bear !!!!
(Date, Place, Bearing Error, Signature)


Lok

The Ferret 28th October 2005 00:02

MFFHHB
 
Excellent!

I always remembered the pre landing checks (for a Chipmunk a few years ago!) by the phrase "My Friend Flikka Has Hairy Balls"!

Glad somebody got CADET!

Keep them coming!

The Ferret:ok:

Fake Sealion 28th October 2005 10:16

Can't be many left !

But here goes......P A T = Power Attitude Trim - the going up bit


A P T = Attitude Power Trim - stopping the going up bit

Going down (!?) and levelling off is also PAT then APT....isn't it ??


Ferret...surely you must be an acronym yourself !!!

Any ideas?

FS

Send Clowns 28th October 2005 12:29

No - it's always PAT except levelling off from a climb. Levelling from a glide descent use the last bit of descent to increase speed.

How about HAT. Pre-HAT checks and post-HATT checks for turns

Before the turn (once turning point identified):

Heading - look up new heading
Altitude - look up altitude for next leg
Time - reset stopwatch

After turn:

Heading - read heading on DI, check with plan
Altitude - check correct and suscale setting correct
Time - check stopwatch has started
Time - check time of next check feature or turning point

BEagle 28th October 2005 12:52

Agree with pre- and post-HAATT checks.

But 'PAT' applies when changing power settings;
'SHT' (Select attitude, Hold, Trim) applies when changing attitude (i.e entering climb or levelling off) with a constant power setting;
'PAAT' (Progressively Adjust Attiude and Trim) applies when accelerating/decelerating in level flight;
'LAI' (L:ooh:k out, Attitude, Instruments) applies when maintaining anything.


So, from S&L at one level to S&L at another, it would go:

PAT - SHT - LAI - SHT - PAAT - PAT - LAI.............

With L:ooh: kout in between everything else!

Send Clowns 28th October 2005 13:07

You can never change the CFS instructor - eyes in his "O"s of lookout! Should have bee red though ;) Having had so much military instruction I do it myself in every briefing.

L:8kout

AFCAS TARGET 28th October 2005 15:33

How about TITS

When tuning a flip-flop radio.

T = Tune
I = Identify (the dit's and da's part)
T = Test (some radio's have a test feature which will make the VOR neddle flip around and flag go erratic)
S= Set it (make sure you flip it over from the standby freq., always my personal favorite to watch someone do, identitfy for 20 minuntes the wrong freq)

Anyway, another old US one.

G-SPOTs Lost 29th October 2005 16:21

Prior to rolling

T Time
I Instruments
T Txpdr
S Switches

BigEndBob 29th October 2005 19:04

T time
T twist
T talk


S Select
I Ident
D Dispaly

18greens 29th October 2005 20:26

Frank Sucks Big Ones.

True but also a useful way of remembering the cloud cover terms
Few, Sct, Bkn, Ovc.

What was ever wrong with Oktas?

The Ferret 29th October 2005 21:59

PAT or APT?
 
Mmn - some debate on when to use PAT and APT! I suppose it will depend on whether you are cruise climbing or not - but in a helicopter if have always thought it went this way:

To start a climb - APT - Attitude to use your IAS to start the climb, then Power then Trim.

To level off from a climb - APT - Attitude to convert your ROC to forward IAS, then Power - set for the cruise, then Trim.

To descend - PAT - reduce Power, adjust Attitude to descent speed then Trim.

To level off from a descent - PAT - increase Power to arrest ROD, adjust Attitude to desired speed and Trim.

As far as the acronym for FERRET, Monsieur Le Fake Sealion, it does not stand for anything yet but I am sure that you can think of something suitable?

The Ferret
:sad:

BigEndBob 30th October 2005 07:01

Why don't we use APT to enter a climb.
I have always taught PAT, but it always felt wrong to thrash the guts out of the engine then enter a climb.
Especially as one Cessna i flew had it prop trimmed and would easily redline.

S stopwatch
T turn
A ATA/ETA
R report

AFCAS TARGET 30th October 2005 11:08

Oh ya, the "T's" bring back memeories.

5 or 6 T's depending on where ya learned.

Turn
Time
Twist
Throttle
Talk
Track

On the line up STILD

Squawk
Time off
Ice
Lights
DG

RVR800 31st October 2005 14:28

ETLA

Extended

Three

Letter

Aconym

The Ferret 2nd November 2005 01:22

ETLAs
 
I was wondering when we would see that one RVR800!

Who remembers PATCASATNE (or something like that?) for position reports - I am sure there are some more for an initial call to a ground station? Does PACER ring a bell with anybody?

The Ferret:cool:

Herbie-TZ 2nd November 2005 03:50

Hello guys,

Here is another one for Instrument-Flying.

It can give you a smelly cockpit though....

On reaching Final Approach Fix

F - Flaps
A - Altimeter-Setting Check
R - Radar Altimeter set for DH
T - Timing ?

grtz Herb

18greens 2nd November 2005 17:38

Good old PACER

Position, Altitude, Condition, Estimate, Request

Still use it today!!

hugh flung_dung 2nd November 2005 21:38

After departure clearance:
Strobes
Pumps
Llights
Iinstruments
Transponder

Time
Ice check
Pitot
... ON

After taxying off the runway:
SPLIT TIP ... OFF

After take-off or missed approach:
Brakes
Undercarriage
Flaps

Power
Altimeters
Iinstruments
Nav aids

Landing light
Ice
Pump

HFD

Capt. On Heat 2nd November 2005 23:31

Meteorolgical theory too, for those batic winds

Up on Anna, down on Kate!

Obs cop 2nd November 2005 23:32

IIRC

Patcasatne was the acronym for Mayday and Pan calls:

P Position
A And
T Time
C Course
A And
S Speed
A Altitude
T Type
N Nature (of emergency)
E Endurance

Obs cop

Happyeater 3rd November 2005 07:43

Just a poor Stude PPL here but here are the 'common' ones we use. Apologies if I've missed them elsewhere;

Pre Landing checks.

B = Brakes off
U = Undercarriage down
M = Mixture rich
F = Flaps / Fuel
I = Instruments / normal / greens
C = Carb heat
H = Harness / seat belts secure etc.

CADET = Compass to True add East. (001 - 189 degrees) used to show what to do when going from magnetic to true in the Nav exam. Obviously you then take away West. Going 190 - 360 you do the opposite.

The Ferret 4th November 2005 00:52

TITT and TOFC
 
Glad to see that PPLers are reading the Instructors and Examiners pages........very wise! I think you did miss CADET earlier however!

Just thought of 2 more - I used the first one today!

TITT to tune in and fly a VOR:

Tune
Identify
Twist
Turn

..........and one for remembering the triggers for a thunderstorm:

Think Of Fluffy Clouds!

Thermal
Orographic
Frontal
Convergence

Keep them coming!

The Ferret
:cool:


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