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Treadstone1 23rd Oct 2013 19:32

ATO Template Manuals
 
Hi all

Has anyone got an update regarding an ETA for the template ATO manuals?

I e-mailed the CAA last week, but, no response came the reply :ugh:

Thanks again

S-Works 23rd Oct 2013 21:11

There are non yet.

TheOddOne 24th Oct 2013 07:18

Hopefully they'll dish them out at the Seminars in November. We've had an e-mail back confirming receipt of our booking. Perhaps receipt of the templates is dependent on seminar attendance. Seems like the way forward to me.

TOO

Whopity 24th Oct 2013 08:56


We've had an e-mail back confirming receipt of our booking
But not necessarily confirmation of attendance, some have received refusals after the confirmation of booking!

TheOddOne 24th Oct 2013 09:06

But not necessarily confirmation of attendance,

True, true, we wait with bated breath, no refusal yet seen.

Was a reason for refusal given? I can think of a couple of reasons - not being a current registered and paid-up RTF for instance...

TOO

BigEndBob 24th Oct 2013 20:48

I think you will see the templates after the seminar.
Saves having a big argument on the day!

Treadstone1 24th Oct 2013 21:27

Thanks for your replies.

The reason I ask is that at the moment, I am an ATO for FI courses and a RTF for PPL.

My PPL/LAPL manuals are ready to be sent off for approval but if I use them they will charge me £1000, if I wait and use the template manuals the fee is only £100.

The reason they have given for the price difference is the time it will take for someone to read them!!!

Does that mean if I use "their" manuals no one is going to take the time and effort to read their manuals? :ugh::ugh:

Treadstone1 24th Oct 2013 21:29

By the way I was refused attendance to the seminars, because I am an ATO already....I only had a "few questions for them to answer" Pity....

Whopity 24th Oct 2013 22:02

It really boils down to bad planning and failure to anticipate demand. The choice of venues also leave a lot to be desired!

md 600 driver 25th Oct 2013 06:02

is their any ato manuals to down load anywhere yet ?

S-Works 25th Oct 2013 08:05

Tread stone, same here!

topoverhaul 25th Oct 2013 08:57

As to locations, it does seem strange that the Perth meeting is in the local football club instead of at the airfield where we could all have flown in to. Now it means a long drive there and back.

JAKL 25th Oct 2013 13:07

ATO Template Manuals
 
We (RTF) have received confirmation of attendance for two places at Gatwick.
Hoping to get templates and plenty of information when we get there.

If the IMC is to continue til 2019, maybe that's when the templates will be issued!

BillieBob 25th Oct 2013 15:09


My PPL/LAPL manuals are ready to be sent off for approval but if I use them they will charge me £1000, if I wait and use the template manuals the fee is only £100.
Not according to IN-2013/131:

Existing ATO - consolidation of PPL and other training previously undertaken as an RTF into an existing ATO approval either using or not using and conforming to the Operations, Training and Compliance Management System (Ops, Training and CMS) Manual templates as published by the CAA - £100.

TheOddOne 26th Oct 2013 14:29

Got our two 'tickets' via e-mail today. Exeter's not a bad venue for us, only 2 hrs each way...

TOO

Treadstone1 26th Oct 2013 19:52

Billiebob

Thanks for this snippet, I will have a read.

Metlik 26th Oct 2013 19:55

Hello gentlemans,

what do you think, is there any chance to get mentioned ATO manuals templates for us, flight school from eastern europe?

cpumad 28th Oct 2013 10:50

From what I heard from the CAA, (FTO inspector) the roadshows are open for guys who are only RTOs. Any school with an FTO/ATO operation won't get priority

Also from the same source, eta for the manuals is just before the 1st roadshow.

xrayalpha 29th Oct 2013 08:24

Well, we are a microlight school - thinking of adding light aircraft to our portfolio, since one will be able to teach on light aircraft for cash without a CPL - and we have been "allowed" one ticket.

Treadstone1 29th Oct 2013 09:04

Hi

I don't know what these road shows are going to cover exactly?

The processes to follow for the change from RTF to an ATO and what information is required to be in the manuals, you would thinks so wouldn't you?

I've been told that the CAA wants to cover infringements and navigation or the lack of it to reduce these infringements.....:ugh:


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