This was his best comment in my opinion.

I said:
Pull what said:

Proof positive the message is not going to get through.

I'm now stepping off this hamster wheel...:ok:

Don't give up Chuck, you were doing so well.

I appreciate your really trying hard MJ but try and stick to the thread.

(If you phone On Track Aviation, 01789 842777, they will help you with some advice on becoming an FI)

SAS look how your post FS briefings have improved

Its now changed to

Yes please sir.

Glad to see you are now seeking feed back on any problems that occur during a FS.

Did you see my circuit and/or landing, any comments?

Did you listen to my RT, any comments?

Can you tell me how I record a FS in my pilots log book?

Can you tell me what flying times I record in my pilots log book?

Can you just make sure I fill the Tech Log and Authorisation Sheet correctly?

I think there may be a defect on the aircraft-how would I word it and write it up?

Can you tell me what the next flight detail will be?

Can you recommend a good internet pilot's forum?

Are you paying for the beer down at the pub?

*Gives up and walks away*

Oh and MJ needs no introduction on here. He's been an FI for quite a while and certainly does know what he's talking about.

Don't forget that many of us on here know each other in the "real world" too.

Thats right--I trained many on here!

Pull what - You should probably remember this old gem;

If everyone else disagrees with you, you're probably the one that's wrong.

So far you've had a host of extraordinarily experienced flight instructors telling you that your method has no value, and a host of newly solo'd students telling you that your method has no value.

I'm not sure the Queen is available, but I can try and get the pope on the phone if you want someone of a more prominent stature to disagree with you.

You're not the only one. Not that it actually matters. None of us can go on anything that isn't posted, unless you use your real name. So far, all we have is your word that you are what you say you are. So far MJ isn't convinced and nor am I. After 10 years on this site I've seen a whole load of people who pretend to be something they aren't, so it's unsurprising that people are suspicious when you refuse to answer specific questions.

If you truly are an experienced FI, then I'm sure you'll understand our suspicions. Afterall, there is nothing more dangerous than people following aviation advice from an unqualified person.

Nice dodge but sorry no chance.

Yet again an inability to answer any technical questions to do with being an instructor. Ones that even a CRI should be able to answer.


Come then answer the questions. Personally I don't think you have sent a student solo in your life which is why your theory's are so wide of the mark about what really happens.

Thanks, are you joining the discussion or supporting friends? Care to point out which part of my method has no value?

I said I would exit this discussion Pull what, but I came back to tell you I do not believe you are an instructor.

If you are I feel sorry for your students..

I thought you would be back Chuck

On the other hand I do believe you are an instructor, I have come across quite a few like you before.

I feel sorry for my students sometimes too-see we have something in common after all!

I'm out. Sorry, but if you are an FI, then I'll be very, very surprised. I'm not going to waste my time debating with a Walt.

Have a great evening, are you briefing in the pub?

No, just not wasting it anymore.

Well say hello to MJ for me.

Come on Skittles its boring now MJ and SAS are in the pub planning a new line of attack-as you said you are a perfectionsist ,so once again would you like to point out which part of my method has no value.

Skittles I wouldn't say I am extraordinarily experienced.

Any FI who is past restricted will know he is talking pish.

Although seeing in another thread that he has mentioned about windows in the roofs of Hamble aircraft.

He could very well be one of them, which would account for his quasi mil terminology.

The teaching methods from those days are well out of date to the point that even the RAF haven't used them for 15-20 years. If it is the cased its more than likely he did fail some poor sod for the inability of the team to knock someone out of an error loop. Him and the rest of the instructors proberly had a right good laugh about it in the bar afterwards as well. Those days the instructor was god, most students learned to fly inspite of the instruction given instead because of the instruction given. It was meant to make a man and pilot out of you. It was also border line bulling and hazing from the word go. but for some students it actually works for them. Older police officers are partial to a bit of verbal abuse when you teach them.

If it is the case that he is a hamble auld tw@t he is proberly worth listening to when it comes to flight procedures. But for modern day instructural technique give his opinion a wide berth. They proberly did debrief the students after first solo. But lacked either the theory of learning knowledge or really didn't care even if they did know. It was just another chance to hit the student with the fact that they were all important. Either way the student got bugger all out the debrief apart from the relief that they wern't getting chopped.

And to add from the previous sacastic comment, I have never met SAS. When I was full time he ran the school 150 miles to the south. I have flown checkouts with his ex students and I am sure he has flown with mine. O aye and there is 3500Nm between me and where SAS is just now.

Speaking as a student who did his first solo in September I cannot really see how any sort of de-brief would be of any value, unless it was about the dual circuits that preceded the final solo one. I can only remember the terror I felt sitting at the hold and briefly being downwind ... the rest has gone from my memory and went very soon after I landed! I flew that circuit on so much adrenaline! I would imagine that the real value of first solo is psychological - ie yes I can safely fly this thing without an instructor sat next to me. Second solo onwards - when I was in a more relaxed state of mind - I was ready to discuss my flying and decision-making with my instructor when I got back and the debriefs from those were enormously valuable. But I think if my instructor had even tried to engage me in anything like that after my 1st solo, it just wouldn't have worked.