Conversion from UK to Irish, how do i get a lapsed rating current

[gibr monkey]

Hi ,

I have exchanged my EASA UK licence to an Irish one. I have an ATPL with a current multi-pilot rating on it but not a SEP rating. How would I go about making my SEP rating valid again as it won't be displayed as a lapsed rating on the new Irish rating as it was on my UK one. I have to hand in my Uk licence to the Irish CAA.

Would it be just a test with an examiner or would have to do an abbreviated course to get back my SEP again.

TIA

[Whopity]

You need to obtain a course completion certificate from an EASA ATO or DTO and then pass a Prof Check with an Examiner authorised by the IAA.

[MrAverage]

But, if a pilot is not allowed to "hold" two EASA licences, can an FE legally sign the UK issued licence? Also, does the CAA licence not have to go back to the UK CAA?

[Whopity]

Who mentioned Licences?

I have an ATPL with a current multi-pilot rating on it but not a SEP rating.

I have to hand in my Uk licence to the Irish CAA.

So he no longer has the UK issued licence however; he could hold a UK National licence as well as an EASA licence but that wasn't the question.
He wants an SEP Class Rating on an IAA EASA Licence, straightforward.
If he can show the ATO/DTO that he had held a SEP rating in the past its just a renewal.

[gibr monkey]

thanks for the information.

So it’s just a case of a training organisation reviewing my experience ( training as required) and then skills test.

great , that’s a relief.

so hypothetically I could get a (UK) based iasa examiner to do the test. As long as the examiner shows his/hers credentials to the Irish authorities.

[Whopity]

The IAA were not happy with non IAA Examiners signing their documents. An EASA Examiner can do the test in conjunction wth the Examiner Differences Doc and in any case you would have to send off to the IAA to have the rating added so it could be very straightforward.

[MrAverage]

The OP used the word licence twice and did not say the CAA one had been sent, only "I have to hand in my UK licence to the Irish CAA". hence what I thought was a genuine question! Others that I know that have gone down this route had to surrender their UK EASA licences to the UK CAA.............

[Whopity]

The IAA would not be able to issue a new EASA licence whilst the UK EASA licence is still held by the applicant however; the IAA has no authority to cancel that licence and should return it to the UK CAA for cancellation. Hopefully, they would then return it to the origial holder endorsed with a cancelled stamp. Somehow I am not sure they do this any more. I have one licence that has a CAA cancellation stamp on it, but I have not seen another in the past 25 years.

[Fl1ingfrog]

From the IAA website;

Q.7 Which ratings will NOT be transferred to my IAA-issued PART-FCL licence?

A: Expired Ratings

Expired ratings will not be endorsed on the IAA-issued PART-FCL licence, but details of any such ratings certified on the Licence Doc. 155 form will be retained on file in case you wish to renew any such rating in the future. In the event that details of expired ratings are not supplied on the Licence Doc. 155 (as is sometimes the case), the renewal of such ratings can be facilitated by subsequent certification from the Licensing Authority that issued your original PART-FCL licence that the rating was originally obtained and held in accordance with PART-FCL.

Q.8 What do I do if I wish to add or renew a rating or otherwise amend my current licence?

The competent authority you are transferring from remains responsible until the licences have exchanged. You should contact that authority to process any changes to your licence. Please note that any changes made to your licence will require additional verification checks to be carried out and this will likely further delay your application. Additional charges may be levied as a result of the additional processing related to the application.