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US Air Force / FAA ATP to EASA ATPL?

Old 24th Sep 2018, 13:13
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US Air Force / FAA ATP to EASA ATPL?

One of the pilots I worked closely with in Germany has just retired from the USAF and will be remaining in Europe. He has an FAA ATP with 707/720 (KC-135 pilot) and Learjet type ratings. He asked what I know about getting an EASA ATPL. He's married to an EU citizen and has the right to remain and work in Europe.

Google took me to a school in Malta's page: "If you hold a EASA Class 1 medical, R/T license, more than 1,500 hours on multi‐pilot aircraft, are type rated already, and have more than 500 hours on type: You are still required to pass all of the 14 EASA ATPL theoretical exams under the direction of an approved training organisation; however you are not required to attend a formal ground school. On completion of passing the examinations, you may complete the training as required in the simulator of which you have more than 500 hours on type, and on which an ATPL skills test will be conducted by an EASA flight ops inspector."

It appears that other than the ability to take the theoretical exams w/o ground school there's essentially no credit for anything. Is the above information accurate?

I was unable to find anything about credit for a Military Pilot towards the ATPL. Obviously the USAF is not EU military, but is a NATO partner...

What advice/experience can you share? I'll send him a link to this page.

Thanks,

Terry
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Old 24th Sep 2018, 15:51
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The bit about FAA to EASA is current - you get credit for the ATPL study but (depending upon the authority) you (may) have to still get an ATO to sign you off for the 14 exams. Also depending upon the authority there is a difference of opinion of the phrase “are type rated” - some implying that it needs to be current.

Mil to civil under the US system I have no idea...
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Old 25th Sep 2018, 06:55
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No credit for US Military only the third country ATPL. From the CAA Website:
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Old 25th Sep 2018, 12:18
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Do it in the UK.

He can self certify and take the 14 exams without paying an ATO.

To get the ATPL issued, he'll need to take an LPC on a type he has on his FAA cert (and has more than 500 hours in) - this will effectively give him the TR and ATPL at the same time. If he doesn't have 500 on type he'll have to do a full TR course.

Personally, I would just pass the exams and start applying for jobs - they'll have to put him through a TR course anyway and it's a pilots market at the moment.
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Old 25th Sep 2018, 18:32
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Gentlemen,

Thank you for the info. I'll pass it on.

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