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Old 13th Sep 2018, 10:41
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So the CAA tell me that the application form is SRG 2145, and not 2143 as published!!!!
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Old 13th Sep 2018, 13:04
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and not 2143 as published!!!!
They have actually replaced the page since the weekend and amended it to say SRG2145. They have also made the page look as though it was there from before 2nd Sept!
Declared Training Organisations (DTOs) offering training towards basic licences and rating for private pilots will be available with effect from Sunday 2 September 2018. No declarations can be made before this date.
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Old 20th Sep 2018, 20:24
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They struggle too to use the correct spelling for principle and principal.. All principals were principles in V3, they did a global change when the error was pointed out and now all principles are principals in V4. Lets see what V5 shows.

SRG 2145 is wrong as well where it refers to Principle Place of Business

Priceless.
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Old 21st Sep 2018, 07:06
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Firstly they drove out all those with knowledge; then they removed the more expensive clerical staff with experience; now they are left with nothing but tick box checkers.
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Old 23rd Sep 2018, 09:43
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Lets tick the boxes and keep going forward
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Old 5th Oct 2018, 13:10
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Flicking though SRG2145 and CAP1637 but it seems to be way more involved than what was required to be a RTF. And I thought everything was for a lighter more proportional touch.

There appears to be a huge amount of additional work and I mean masses. All of which I am sure will require auditing and for the life of me I can't see the bill only coming to 55 quid a year.
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Old 6th Oct 2018, 07:54
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but it seems to be way more involved than what was required to be a RTF.
Indeed, but just follow the EASA Brief
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Old 7th Oct 2018, 17:11
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Starts at 55 until they work out it will then require ravelling etc on top, unless it goes out to industry? you never know?
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Old 7th Oct 2018, 18:04
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Has anyone applied for DTO yet?
Also do you think it may be delayed until Sept 2019 instead of April 2019 ?...
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Old 7th Oct 2018, 20:02
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Has anyone applied for DTO yet?
There is no Application involved, you make a Declaration
Also do you think it may be delayed until Sept 2019 instead of April 2019 ?...
No, it was implemented into EU Law on 2 Sept 2018 and from that date anyone can make a declaration.
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Old 8th Oct 2018, 08:31
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I think Danny Boy, means has anyone made a declaration yet?
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Old 9th Oct 2018, 14:24
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has anyone made a declaration yet
I believe so.
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Old 9th Oct 2018, 15:20
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13 so far - see https://www.caa.co.uk/General-aviati...Organisations/
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Old 10th Oct 2018, 20:03
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Always someone keen to jump on the bus and take the back seat.
Me i will wait for the next bus, it won't be long.

New schools DTO or do they have to be ATO?
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Old 11th Oct 2018, 07:56
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I'm waiting a little longer too B.E.B. Need to know if we'll still be able to add the IRR to EASA licences beyond April and/or the BIR. I've written to the APPG in the vain hope some common sense might result from their intervention................

I don't want to be an ATO but if they take away another income stream I may have to.
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Old 11th Oct 2018, 08:27
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New schools DTO or do they have to be ATO?
If you want to do anything more than LAPL/PPL, SEP, TMG, Night & Aerobatics Ratings then you need to be an ATO.
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