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Any one know any more, been looking for further information, about when they might start?:sad:

They can start the minute it becomes EC Law however; that will not be until 6 months after the document is posted in the European Parliament. I am not sure if that has happened yet, but you can take the cue from whenever that happens.

A useful EASA presentation here

The CAA has published CAP 1637 which looks much more complicated.

Thanks
 

Thanks Whopity, I have already seen that.(EASA presentation)
Ah well will just have to wait.:rolleyes:

The intention was for the Regulation to be published in time for it to become effective on 8 April with a 12-month implementation period to allow all RFs to become DTOs by 8 April 2019. Predictably, however, this has not happened - the EC have screwed around with the Opinion from EASA and the UK CAA has gold-plated the result out of all recognition.

The consequence is that, instead of the light-touch regime we were promised, we will eventually get something that is not dissimilar in its requirements to the ATO but with a nominal 5 year oversight schedule to allow the CAA to manage with its current, inadequate bunch of inspectors.

Completely agree, the nonsense coming out of the UK CAA is simply astonishing!

If it makes it even slightly simpler at least that's something, plus hoping not as costly! Time wise.:sad:

How can it possibly be cheaper than RTF's which for many years there was no charge and currently is 102 quid per year.

Having looked through CAP 1637 I have to agree with Whopity it appears an awful lot more complicated and I very much hope alot of the gold plating doesn't come to fruition.

For those who haven't noticed:

Wow wonder if that allows type rating training on helicopters?

Yes, as follows:

Cannot locate SRG 2143?

The SRG2144 is available but not the 2143.
Could the CAA have been caught on the hop again, after all its only been law for a week!

Thanks Whopity, very interesting up to 5 seats for type rating training on DTO.

Sorry, I've missed something. Where is the limitation of "5 seats" for type rating training in the document?

DTO.GEN.110Scope of the training

Whopity thanks, I skimmed over the helicopter bits. Sorry, I promise to do better next time.

5 seats makes it interesting for Bell 206 5 seats, but Longranger 7 seats? but would that be allowed under difference's as in same group?

Anything that complires with the Regulation is allowed. The DTO would be limited to type ratings on the 5 seater. Differences training does not require a DTO or ATO so does not enter into the equation its a seperate issue.

No training is permitted on the Longranger within a DTO. Differences training is only a separate issue until the next change to Part-FCL when, with the exception of SEP and MEP aeroplanes, all differences training will have to be done in an ATO or DTO (and approved, leading to the inevitable fee).

The plot thickens? thanks to Whopity and Billie Bob for your assistance.
Tim:)