FIs signing Revalidation
I'm still waiting for my licence to be re-issued with the privilege, if it has the card when it arrives, I'll scan and post it.
So far however, I don't think that anybody has seen this alleged instruction card.
G
So far however, I don't think that anybody has seen this alleged instruction card.
G
Postscript.
A licence came back in the post today. Impressive packaging, it was inside an envelope, inside a jiffy bag, inside a courier bag !
My EASA licence has been re-issued and my instructor privileges are shown as "CRI For/SEP(land)/FCL945".
My UK licence, which has my CRI on it, hasn't been re-issued.
There's no explanatory card.
There was a receipt for £59 !
Fortunately, I instruct at a school with a friendly examiner, I'll go and get him to explain the paperwork to me.
G
A licence came back in the post today. Impressive packaging, it was inside an envelope, inside a jiffy bag, inside a courier bag !
My EASA licence has been re-issued and my instructor privileges are shown as "CRI For/SEP(land)/FCL945".
My UK licence, which has my CRI on it, hasn't been re-issued.
There's no explanatory card.
There was a receipt for £59 !
Fortunately, I instruct at a school with a friendly examiner, I'll go and get him to explain the paperwork to me.
G
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: West Sussex
Posts: 319
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I finally received a reply from the CAA in response to my email request for further guidance on the FCL.945 obligations. This was my enquiry:-
And this the response:-
This seems very clear, and contrary to the advice that Bose received. Perhaps there has been an outbreak of common sense at the CAA.
I have now received my updated CPL with FCL.945 added to my instructor certificate. I was a little surprised that this arrived with no additional guidance as to how to exercise this privilege. I would therefore like to clarify two things regarding my new “obligation”:-
1. The wording used to describe the FCL.945 obligation is vague. I have interpreted the phrase “Upon completion of the training flight....” to mean at any time after the completion of the training flight and after all the other FCL.740A(b)(1) criteria are met (even if these were not all met at the time of the training flight), but before the expiry date of the SEP rating. Please confirm that this interpretation is correct.
2. Please also confirm that the I (as an FI with the FCL.945 Obligation) should complete and sign section 4 of form SRG1119E for everyone I revalidate.
1. The wording used to describe the FCL.945 obligation is vague. I have interpreted the phrase “Upon completion of the training flight....” to mean at any time after the completion of the training flight and after all the other FCL.740A(b)(1) criteria are met (even if these were not all met at the time of the training flight), but before the expiry date of the SEP rating. Please confirm that this interpretation is correct.
2. Please also confirm that the I (as an FI with the FCL.945 Obligation) should complete and sign section 4 of form SRG1119E for everyone I revalidate.
Thank you for your email below and please accept my apologies for not responding to your original email in May.
1. Your interpretation is correct.
To assist in the timely revalidation of class ratings we want applicants to be able to take advantage of the full 12 months preceding the expiry of the rating. As such if the applicant does not meet all of the revalidation requirements at the time they complete the training flight or flight(s) with a suitable authorised instruct, then the applicant must return to that instructor once all of the revalidation requirements have been completed prior to the expiry date on the certificate of revalidation and obtain the revalidation of their rating(s).
It is vitally important that any applicant who does not meet the all of the revalidation requirements at the time they complete the training flight or flight(s), is made aware of the need to still obtain the revalidation of their rating and what the implications are if they fail to do this.
2. As the authorised instructor you can sign either SRG 1119E, in section 4 or SRG 1157, in the sections relating to the revalidation by experience, endorsement of the certificate of revalidation and confirmation by examiner. Please remember that you will need to retain a copy, a copy must be given to the applicant and a copy forwarded to the UK CAA. The instructor’s and applicant’s copy may be electronic, but the original must be returned to the CAA. Unfortunately, the CAA will not be updating the forms. Our stated objective is to move to electronic means of application and at present all resources are engaged in this project.
It was also a pity that the guidance card outlined in the Information Notice was delayed in being produced, hopefully this will be ready soon and it will answer many of these questions.
I hope that has clarified the use of the new authorisation.
1. Your interpretation is correct.
To assist in the timely revalidation of class ratings we want applicants to be able to take advantage of the full 12 months preceding the expiry of the rating. As such if the applicant does not meet all of the revalidation requirements at the time they complete the training flight or flight(s) with a suitable authorised instruct, then the applicant must return to that instructor once all of the revalidation requirements have been completed prior to the expiry date on the certificate of revalidation and obtain the revalidation of their rating(s).
It is vitally important that any applicant who does not meet the all of the revalidation requirements at the time they complete the training flight or flight(s), is made aware of the need to still obtain the revalidation of their rating and what the implications are if they fail to do this.
2. As the authorised instructor you can sign either SRG 1119E, in section 4 or SRG 1157, in the sections relating to the revalidation by experience, endorsement of the certificate of revalidation and confirmation by examiner. Please remember that you will need to retain a copy, a copy must be given to the applicant and a copy forwarded to the UK CAA. The instructor’s and applicant’s copy may be electronic, but the original must be returned to the CAA. Unfortunately, the CAA will not be updating the forms. Our stated objective is to move to electronic means of application and at present all resources are engaged in this project.
It was also a pity that the guidance card outlined in the Information Notice was delayed in being produced, hopefully this will be ready soon and it will answer many of these questions.
I hope that has clarified the use of the new authorisation.
Last edited by dobbin1; 18th Jun 2015 at 16:37. Reason: Spelling
Thanks Dobbin - very helpful.
My card has just arrived in the post after I chased this - unfortunately however the card which arrived explained something else altogether, so your post is vastly more useful.
G
My card has just arrived in the post after I chased this - unfortunately however the card which arrived explained something else altogether, so your post is vastly more useful.
G
